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There is a society of translators who can publish their own translation and many collect translations of their friends. The number of translations out there would be hard to count.

I enjoy the MKJV but my preferred translation is the NET

How many translations into English do you suppose are out there of Aristotle, Plato, Homer, etc.? Why does it surprise you that there are many translations into English (not to mention every other major language) of the Bible, and that people have personal favorites? Do you see that as discrediting of the Bible? Does it discredit Aristotle, Plato, Homer, etc., that one can find various different translations into English of their works?

The Bible is just a collection of books that Christian leaders, in conference, put together for the faithful. These leaders had certain criteria they used to determine which holy books would be canon law.

All the books of the Bible are copies of earlier works because there is no real way to find the "original" and we probably would not know the "original" even if we found it.

This is how the game went. Some religious person or leader would dictate to a scribe who would write down by hand what that person said. Then the writings would be sent to to another church or group who would precede to copy the "original" and then pass on the "original" to another group who in turn would copy the "original". This went on forever.

It's not likely that the "originals" could ever be found all that can be found is the "earliest" copies.

NIV (1984)

I take all these earlier works with a grain of salt. I don't try to believe that laws should be passed and people jailed or burned at the stake because of them. With the Bible, people take that as the written Word of God and create all kinds of mayhem because of Bible. If people took the Bible with a grain of salt than who cares but when a religion is built upon the "reveled Word of God" in a collection of books written by a group of anonymous dead guys well you can see the problem some of us would have with that.

Derby, the Christian faith long predates the New Testament, i.e., there was not really any New Testament canon, or even most of the books we associate with it, when the Christian faith was spreading and flourishing. Those New Testament books were handwritten by their authors at various times as aids in their teaching of the faith to the early Church, and aids only. The faith was the important thing, which they mainly taught orally.

At a certain time after the death of all the apostles, different churches preserved all those letters and written gospels, and many had been hand copied so other churches could possess copies for instruction purposes, and cherished them, but many were floating around that were not actually written by the apostles, and controversy arose.

The Church then organized a counsel to settle the disputes as to which were true and which false, and this involved investigation and tracing back to sources, etc..

They then established what's known as the New Testament canon, what we call the books of the New Testament. But the faith was first taught without any of them, for the most part and, until Gutenberg's printing press, the Bible was generally only available in Churches and to the very wealthy. It wasn't central to the Christian faith till after most folks could get their hands on their own personal editions of it, many centuries after the Gospel had been preached and embraced by huge swaths of humanity, most unable to ever read from a Bible their entire lives.

The works of Aristotle, Plato, Homer, etc. do not claim to be the infallible Word of God.

I�m still waiting for answers to the questions I posted before about the Bible stating that the earth is a flat fixed world with definite corners, under a dome, that is sitting in the very center of the universe.

That's true I was just trying to give the short answer.

The only thing I would disagree is the authors. It was quite common to use pseudonyms and credit others with the writings so we do not know who really wrote the original works. This is of course, a controversy that will never end. Hence, it is the reason I'm a Deist and can never be a Christian although I may at times have much in common with Christians.

God tell us through the Bible that the earth is immovable and is the center of the universe.
Sometimes he or she made the sun stop moving around the earth.
That is because those stars and the sun and moon have different laws of physics than here on earth. Everybody knows that.

Psalms 19:4-6
yet their voice goes out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them he has set a tent for the sun, which comes forth like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, and like a strong man runs his course with joy. Its rising is from the end of the heavens, and its circuit to the end of them; and there is nothing hid from its heat.
Ecclesiastes 1:5
The sun rises and the sun goes down, and hastens to the place where it rises.
Joshua 10:12-13
Then spoke Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord gave the Amorites over to the men of Israel; and he said in the sight of Israel, "Sun, stand thou still at Gibeon, and thou Moon in the valley of Aijalon." And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stayed in the midst of heaven, and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day.
Habakkuk 3:11
The sun and moon stood still in their habitation at the light of thine arrows as they sped, at the flash of thy glittering spear.

�Use of the phrase �solar system� should therefore be avoided in favor of the more accurate �geosystem.� "

What silly objections. The author was speaking of events as they appeared to people who experienced them. It wasn't intended as a scientific text.

John 3:16,is probably my favorite ,among others

KJV followed by NIV

Wait a minute!

The consensus so far is that there is no original test.

If so, how can anyone quote whatever version they have at hand to 'prove' the validity of their point? Anyone can select any version in English they like. And do battle theoretically at least...with those choosing another text or interpretation.

Then, there are also the non-English versions -- some closer to the 'original' -- ad infinitum to consider.

Not that it matters, religious fervor is a self licking ice cream cone. It will find its own outlet.

1B

I'm a firm believer in literal equivalence so I much prefer the NASB or ESV.

The Catholics have one official translation. All references for doctrinal purposes are made to it. It's called the Vulgate translation, and it's in Latin.

For Catholics, the source in this world of religious truth is the Church Christ established on the earth, which they assert is what is now known as the Roman Catholic Church.

Notice I didn't say that "the source of religious truth is the Bible." It can't be, because there was a Church on earth with authority from Christ to spread the Gospel long before the books we know as The New Testament were even penned, let alone put into a single canonical collection, and still more centuries till access to it for all Christians was even a possibility, since each complete volume of the New Testament would cost someone the modern-day equivalent of many thousands of dollars.

This is why the Roman Catholic Church claimed the authority to generate an official translation from which all doctrinally important New Testament scripture references are to be made. That's because only they would have the authority to make sure that the translation contains no doctrinal errors.

The Catholic position is very different from that of the Protestant denominations on this question, and seems more internally logical to me, considering what I said above about the period of time in which there literally was no New Testament, yet there was at that time a saving Gospel to be taught, and a Church appointed to teach it.

NASB, NKJV, Amplified, and Wuest are my favorites.

So tell me how those people experienced an event when the Sun appeared to stand still all day?

These are a few of the Bible quotes I used in the �Evolution Proof?� thread asking for answers from those who swear the Bible is the infallible Word of God.


Now you tell me that the authors got it wrong? BLASPHEMY!!

It was a miracle.When people aren't writing a scientific text, they communicate as normal people do. Don't you speak of the sun rising over there and setting over on the other side of the horizon? By your standard, then, you lie regularly, unless you say something like, "the earth's horizon over there revolves to intersect with the position of the sun from our viewpoint allowing for the sun's rays to reach us in the morning, and in the evening the earth's horizon over there in the opposite direction revolves over to once again meet up with our line of view to the sun just before blocking out our view of it." Do you ordinarily speak like this, or do you just say something like, "the sun rises over there and sets over there?" If more like the latter, that makes you, by your own standards, a liar.

I am pretty sure I have never said the Sun stood still in the sky for a whole day.

Joshua 10:12-13
Then spoke Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord gave the Amorites over to the men of Israel; and he said in the sight of Israel, "Sun, stand thou still at Gibeon, and thou Moon in the valley of Aijalon." And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stayed in the midst of heaven, and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day.

My disagreement remains with those who claim this happened because it is written in the Bible. My original quotes are better suited to the �Evolution Proof?� thread where Genesis is being offered as scientific text.

Meanwhile on the subject matter of this thread, I have been looking into some of the �Books� not in the Bible.
Gospel of Thomas
Gospel of Judas
Gospel of Mary
Apocalypse of Peter
The Epistle of Barnabas
Book of Enoch�