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Sitting in one of my stands recently thinking how a RN would work perfectly for all the places i hunt . Hardly ever need to shoot more than a 100 yds , almost always in the woods , like two holes when i can get them and good blood trails that are easier to follow in heavy cover , pines,cutover areas .Who has used RN at 308/30-06 velocities and what did you think of it ? The gun is a stainless marlin that i like to use as sort of truck/bad weather gun that lately gets used pretty much all the time because i like the 2-7 leupold that is on it for woods hunting . Might even take it along next trip to colorado . The elk I have shot have been DIY public land cows at 250 and much less .
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Wish RN were offered in my caliber as a component bullet. Nice entrance holes and immediate expansion. Don't really need a spitzer at anything 200 yards and closer.
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I use the 180 gr. Hornady RN/H414/CCI250 in a push feed Model 70 .30-'06. The accuracy and performance on game are excellent. I like to try many different rifles and loads, but this is the deer and black bear rifle and load I go to when I don't want to have to pass up shots from nagging doubts.
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Thought about but realized it is no longer 1940, and there are far more advancements in bullets than a copper cup with a knob of lead on the end. No lead for me.
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Sitting in one of my stands recently thinking how a RN would work perfectly for all the places i hunt . Hardly ever need to shoot more than a 100 yds , almost always in the woods , like two holes when i can get them and good blood trails that are easier to follow in heavy cover , pines,cutover areas .Who has used RN at 308/30-06 velocities and what did you think of it ? The gun is a stainless marlin that i like to use as sort of truck/bad weather gun that lately gets used pretty much all the time because i like the 2-7 leupold that is on it for woods hunting . Might even take it along next trip to colorado . The elk I have shot have been DIY public land cows at 250 and much less . Shot, and seen shot well more than enough deer with RN bullets to ever wish for such a dreadful turn of events as to have to return to the dark ages. Why wouldn't you use a modern alternative which accomplishes all your wishes with ease?
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I have used 180 Gr RN in.308 and 220's in .06 and killed quite a few elk with them.
Why do people still mistakenly believe that RN bullets are only good for 100yards. Go shoot some at 250-300 yards and get a surprise.
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RN bullets work just fine. But there is no downside to using pointed bullets up close either.
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I didn't know they made any other type of bullet until I was 16 or 17. A 30-06 with a 180 RN or a 30-30 with a 170 RN is about all I had ever seen. I guess there was the occasional 303 or 8x57, but they we round nose also. Everyone knows you can shoot through brush and small trees with RN bullets.
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I use the Hornady .308 180 gr. RN Interlock bullet in both my .308 and my .300 Savage. It shoots accurately and drops deer with authority. My unscientific opinion is that RN and FP bullets seem to hit deer "harder" than spitzers do. At least, in my limited experience, the .30.30 with flat points and the .308 with round noses both seem to drop deer very fast with good hits.
Hopefully I will never be required to use a lead-free bullet around here, because I have a lifetime supply of the old-fashioned ones and am perfectly happy with them.
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Saddlesore , which 180 RN do you favor in the 308 ?
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Haven't yet found an accurate load yet with 180 gr. RN's. But I have used a 220 gr. Hornady to kill a cow moose about 10 years ago. Have used 117 gr. RN's to kill a few deer and antelope in a 25 Remington over the past few years. I'll use whatever is most accurate in a particular rifle, as out to 200 yards shape matters little.
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Used lots of 150 and 180g round noses in my 308 as a teenager, handloads and factory.
Killed faster or at worst as fast as any spitzer bullet in that rifle.
Most shots in those days were from a vehicle, culling pigs, goats and many other soft skin game. I mean thousands and thousands of head of game, sad as it might sound.
Most shots were 200y or under and the 30 cal RN was almost peerless in that setting.
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RN bullets have been whackin game for decades. If your shots are under 150 yards or so I don't see how you would be handicapped by choosing one over a spitzer. And I have found them to be quite accurate.
In my experience (and from those of hunting partners), they hit hard and don't seem to blow up a lot meat. BTW the .308 RN I use is the Sierra version.
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Thought about but realized it is no longer 1940, and there are far more advancements in bullets than a copper cup with a knob of lead on the end. No lead for me. 1940 or 2013, a "copper cup with a knob of lead on the end" will knock the snot out of game.
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1940 or 2013, a "copper cup with a knob of lead on the end" will knock the snot out of game. Yeah my view too. The extra velocity with new powders and extra accuracy with tighter tolerances and better optics have been great advances. Game has not become harder to kill however. I totally respect people using new types of bullets but its hard to see the need, for me anyway.
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That "old" Inter-lokt RN is perhaps the best RN cup/core bullet you'll find too. I've use the 170 and 220 30 cals on moose; have seen the 180 used in the 308. I've killed several more moose with "modern alternatives". Neither the "new" nor the "dark ages" technology was obviously superior to the other.
BTW, if the lead bothers anyone, stop with the "good-luck" kiss. Your projectile doesn't care, and you won't catch "the gay" from over-exposure to copper. (Google that for giggles.)
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Saddlesore , which 180 RN do you favor in the 308 ? Sierra. No good reason. I haven't used anything else to compare them to. They work. Although I must admit, I use a lot more 220gr in an.06 than I do in.308. My .308 hardly ever goes to the field anymore. Not meant to be a brag or such, but regarding RN bullets at distance. The year that CO permitted 3 elk tags per person. I killed two cow elk at 347 yards (per a Lieca range Finder) within 30 seconds of each other. People who say they are not accurate past 100yards, I fear, have never use them. Fact is even manufacturers of the mighty BT spitzer say that they offer no advantage until you go past 30 yards or so.
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I intend to load the Nosler .308 170 to 2400-2500 in my M99EG .300 Svg some day just because.
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Not at '06 speeds but, I can tell ya a 180 gr Speer rnsp hot-cor bullet leaving an old Savage 99G takedown in 300 Sav at 2400 fps penetrated a big WT doe diagonally at, IIRC about 80 yards, saw a mark on an elm tree behind where the deer had stood, took my knife and cut loose a perfect mushroomed bullet just inside the bark.
Very surprised at that level of performance from that old 1920's production rifle.
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