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And you have never been deceived by a non Christian?

Stop being so damn defensive, the man is attempting to point out that there are good and bad in every lot.

Oh yes, boasted of it loud & often.

People will screw up everything they get involved in, including Christianity. Just look around here at the 24HCF.

Thank you.

That's exactly it. People are people no matter who "they" are, what they do, or what they believe in.

So let's not let a few bad apples ruin the whole barrel...

I try to be a christian myself but I often find that I am not very good at it...but I still keep trying...

Exactly. Every time someone says something about women Miss Lynn is right there to say 'Not all', which we in fact all know that already.

I don't dislike Tom because he's a 'Christian' or Kamo because he's Asian, I dislike them because they are [bleep]. Don't mean all Christians and Asians are [bleep].

Freemasonry is a "works" based religion(yes, it is a religion), as opposed to the "grace" system of the Bible. Like all false religions it requires good "works" in order to reach ones final reward. Unlike other false systems in which the member doesn't know if he's done enough good to tip the scales in his favor at the end, freemasonry provides a cool way to keep track: the "degree" system. The higher one gets, the better the chances.

Since this, like all false systems, diverts people from the truth of God's word, Satan is quite pleased. That's his reason for being. The Bible says Satan can come "as an angel of light" and he does. Masons do much good, as Fish Head has alluded, but it gets no one to God.

I understand. However, the wife, child & verbal abuse does not deserve the same forgiveness as "not very good at it".

People are human. Organizations are full of them.


The organization doesn't make these people what they are. I doubt Masons teach racism or wife beating and I guess they wait a long time before introducing Satanism. ( note* - sarcasm)

I believe most people know they are flawed and want these organizations to help guide them to be better people by helping others. If BLRnuts example doesn't convince you nothing will.

There are bad priests
There are bad cops
There are bad teachers
There are bad 'fire members

Most aren't nor want to be but all were just people long before they signed up.

Correct, but it does not hold true according to what state in the union you live in, as fish head suggested in a post to me on this thread. Good and bad in all, everywhere. I just happened to be close to that world, and got to see more bad than good, and it left it's mark for me.

I have had absolutely zero exposure to any of this, which is why I am following this thread.

Not saying to forgive anybody for anything. Just pointing out that not all Freemason's are wife, child & verbal abusers...

The Satanic aspect is only gradually revealed as one progresses to higher levels, having already taken many oaths of perpetual loyalty and secrecy. It's a carefully guarded secret disguised in symbolism, but becomes more overtly revealed at the higher levels. It is for this reason it was condemned by the Catholic Church since its origin.


The Grand Architect of the Universe does not refer to the God of the Bible, but rather to Satan who warred against God and was cast down. Low and medium level Freemasons are misled to believe that the Grand Architect of the Universe refers to God so they feel comfortable becoming gradually more committed to the organization without it conflicting with their Christian sensibilities.

In reply to TRH re this^^^


According to the writings of many Baptist and other missionaries to countries in South America in the early 1900's, they were in some degree of danger for their lives from the predominant Catholic Church power in the region which wasn't happy to have anyone challenge their position there either.

Summed up. Whether or not the charges leveled at the uppermost Masonry are justified or slanderous, need not even enter into the conversation when the point is made this way. Most Masons are Church members (just a totally subjective observation), so why can't they just do Church work?

Ha JStuart. You are going to have zero exposure after this thread also, if you mean learning something about the original subject.

I don't care who people are or what they claim to be.
I do distrust those who try to trade on beliefs or so called standing in a attempt to promote business or personal relationships,
For instance, someone gives me a business card that states his is a "christian business" will never get a call.
Not likely I would do business with the same guy if his card read "mason"

Wow...Masons are devil worshipers? Some of you folk are past funny and just plain fuggin' stupid.


I'll take Masons over the brand of Christianity typically on display here.