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I've seen a lot of people put their religion or church before their God/Jesus.

Insults? You are the one callin' folk devil worshipers.

I simply pointed out your head is firmly implanted in your azz.
I suggest you look for daylight and make haste.

Take Albert with ya.

"The faithful who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion.... Consequently, neither the excommunication nor the other penalties envisaged have been abrogated." -Cardinal Ratzinger, Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, November 26, 1983

"In the past We have counseled through prophets, your Popes, to forbid all who have joined in My Son's Church, forbid them to become part of freemasonry and the Masons. And why? Because, My children, they are not of God, and if they are not of God, they are the Antichrist. And why are they the Antichrist? Because they worship false idols!
"In the commandments of Your God you will remember: 'I,' said the Lord, 'I am your God; thou shalt not have strange gods before you.' And who are these strange gods of masonry and witchcraft? Isis!

"My children, man has accepted gods of nature! Pagans you have become! You reject your God the Father; you reject the Trinity; and you have dabbled and burned your fingers in the unknown, the darkness of satanism." - Our Lady of the Roses, November 1, 1977

ALbert PIKE . notice that the stuff in quotes is Albert Pike's own words. Here is one of many such articles.
link.....

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/pike.htm

I guess you can read. Please read the link that I posted , then you can apologize.

Quote from Albert Pike---leader of the freemasons for 32 years.

After World War Three is ended, those who aspire to undisputed world domination will provoke the greatest social cataclysm the world has ever known. We quote his own written words taken from the letter catalogued in the British Museum Library, London, England.

"We shall unleash the Nihilists and Atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will be from that moment without compass (direction), anxious for an ideal, but with out knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time"

TF49 said his father made mention of lucifer. NOT a coincidence.

Read the text around his famous quote. You will discover this slander is just an out of context quote mine.

Now we've got a party!

This had been a great read so far. Much better than anything on TV.

BD- you ain't heading for daylight.

Great link, by the way.

+1

Except for the part where the letter was never catalogued in the British museum.

What I get from this thread so far is that the Masons are anti established religion, and the catholic church is anti anything that threatens their power, to the point of casting judgements designed to set all the easily swayed at the mason's throats.

I for one do not get the urge to don armour and ride off screaming "God wills it" because some paedophile mick says I should.

Just curious ...

Are all of your front teeth still intact?

And ...

Please PM me your address. I'd like to get to know you.





ROAD TRIP !!!

I hadn't realized till now the power of Freemasonry here at the Fire. One dare not speak anything but flattery in its regard.

Do you feel eyes watching you, do strange cars follow you, was your soap moved from it's usual spot...careful now, THEY are out to get you!

Ok, one more comment and then I have to sign off. Still on the road and gotta make miles tomorrow. Y'all can go get some more popcorn.

So, in regard to my father only: He would say that one could become a Mason as long as he believed in a supreme being. Atheists were not allowed. But, one could be a Christian, Jew or Muslim.

It was my understanding from him that as one passed upward through the degrees and through the teachings that one would eventually find that Lucifer was the "one who enlightened." I am not sure that he would characterize Lucifer as the "supreme being" but Lucifer was one of the honchos. It seemed to be expected that one's belief in Judaism, islam or Christianity would become less relevant as one become "enlightened." In other words, if one only progressed so far he would not have all the "enlightenment" that the more senior and advanced masons would have. A great part of this progression was also to learn how to become a "better man."

Now, he would also indicate that a simple "mason" or one who only advanced through the "Blue Lodge"...? would not be privy to all the "enlightenment." One gained increasing amounts of "enlightenment" as one advanced through and upward in the program. My father was proud that he had progressed "all the way", whatever that is. I do not know. He indicated that most Masons stopped well before finding the crucial answers and he would always encourage me to join up and focus on a quest to become a better man and a more enlightened man.

I do not know if there was only a voluntary end to one's "quest" or if the head honchos of the program only allowed a certain few to gain the highest level of enlightenment. He was reluctant to say much more and seemed like maybe he had already told me too much. I don't know.

After he was Grand Master, he went on to join the Shriner's and seemed to become more involved in that and as he grew older. His enthusiasm for Freemasonry seemed to diminish as he had retired, moved and did not fully enjoy the Masons in the local lodge. A fair number of Masons showed up at his memorial service and they also conducted their own ceremony for him.

Let me repeat, this is only from my father and if a Mason were to take issue with what he said, I would not and could not refute it from my base of experience.

I see no issue with Geo comments about being a Mason and a Christian as long as there is no refutation of Jesus. He has it right as far as I can tell.

Perhaps there is an advanced Mason in the group that can comment on this post. Now, I think this may be a problem as I understand that Masons are not to talk too much about their beliefs and goings on. Perhaps what I have said is either wrong or even not relevant to Freemasonry as a whole.

TF

Free Masons, Illuminati, or Federal Reserve?

Shshshshshsh. Dare not to speak against the lodges here.

The problem is when one speaks of something one knows nothing about.

All I ask was if your Catholic beliefs and your Masonic beliefs have any conflicts?

My second question would be, Are you a Master Mason?