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Short answer. I would question anything said to be written by anyone claiming to be a Freemason.
If that is difficult to understand, it should be to anyone but a Freemasom. Others will know of what I speak.

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Originally Posted by birddog65
Geow, RWE, by saying things like conjecture and no true facts, you are calling the #1 FreeMason of all time a LIAR (ALBERT PIKE)
all the information posted thus far was DIRECTLY from Albert Pike 's book . Most if not all the information posted was from some free mason's own books. If you read all of Albert Pike's books and still don't see the points we non-mason Christians are trying to make---- then its no wonder there are so many FreeMasons. You can lead a horse to water......


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Originally Posted by birddog65
Ready on the right, thank you for your hard work. Excellent post.
Anyone want to call that conjecture, no facts, BS, out of context, arrogant, god-botherer,??? that was a slam dunk if I ever saw one.



I just re=posted the link from wtx???

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Originally Posted by Deerwhacker444
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I'm still curios of Black Masons..

Don't see a whole lot of Bruthas riding in the go-karts...


Nope....and you never will

Aha,...So that brings me back to my post many pages back...

Are the blacks that claim to be masons, ie Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc, actually recognized as what most of us would call "Masons" or are they they looked at as those "Prince Hall" Masons that aren't bonafide.?

For example...

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Prince Hall Masons link


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Originally Posted by derby_dude
Originally Posted by BarryC
Originally Posted by Penguin

He had a lot to teach in spite of all his faults. Even for a Mason like myself who believes in God but considers the concept of Satan to be nothing but superstition of the most rank kind.


You sound like a typical gnostic.


That doesn't sound like a gnostic to me.


Correct, a gnostic embraces the spiritual world, whereas a Mason appears to embrace and actively interact with the physical.


These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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I believe it is a local thing. My F&AM Blue Lodge has White and Black, Jews, Protestants, and Catholics. I am very rural. The Prince Hall lodges came into existance out of earlier times/predjudices. They are the same as a Blue Lodge as far as I know.

Originally Posted by Deerwhacker444
I'm still curios of Black Masons...

Are they accepted into any Lodge, or are they required to go thru the Prince Hall Lodges.?

Don't see a whole lot of Bruthas riding in the go-karts...


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After much reading and much thought. I think I have a concise statement of my thoughts on this post.

I choose to honor my oath. There are simple answers that I just can't give; much of this stuff is for Masons to know and you to wonder.

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"Masons to know and you to wonder". secrets secrets! secret oaths, secret handshakes, secret messages ...Does make you wonder!......don't ever recall any references to that stuff in the bible.


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Originally Posted by birddog65
"Masons to know and you to wonder". secrets secrets! secret oaths, secret handshakes, secret messages ...Does make you wonder!......don't ever recall any references to that stuff in the bible.


Don't make me wonder at all. That "stuff" is is of no value to my life. For sure don't fit with Christian values.


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Like all private clubs

What happened there stayed there

Not so much in the jabber to ones neighbor gathering places


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Originally Posted by birddog65
"Masons to know and you to wonder". secrets secrets! secret oaths, secret handshakes, secret messages ...Does make you wonder!......don't ever recall any references to that stuff in the bible.


13 When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, �Who do people say the Son of Man is?�

16 Simon Peter answered, �You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.�

20 Then He ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that He was the Messiah.

Big secret there.


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Originally Posted by RWE
Originally Posted by birddog65
"Masons to know and you to wonder". secrets secrets! secret oaths, secret handshakes, secret messages ...Does make you wonder!......don't ever recall any references to that stuff in the bible.


13 When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, �Who do people say the Son of Man is?�

16 Simon Peter answered, �You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.�

20 Then He ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that He was the Messiah.

Big secret there.



Ohho, that guarantees the 100 count, not a single one will be able to resist that titbit...well that and the chance to attempt control over complete strangers.


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Are we there yet??????

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Ohho, that guarantees the 100 count, not a single one will be able to resist that titbit...well that and the chance to attempt control over complete strangers.


I regret posting it already.

I don't want to come across as a "chapter and verse" internet evangelist, but the statement was made.

The bulk of my Father's business is done privately and in person.

Hope that doesn't make me a defacto Mason.....

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So Mr Birddog, you have the rag on because Freemasons will not divulge to you the things that they consider none of your business.. Correct?

And then someone steps up to bat and mentions Freemasons and a relationship to the Holy Bible.. Do you understand that Freemasonry is not a religion? Nor does it claim to be?


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Are we there yet??????


Almost.

976 replies. Only 24 to go.

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Originally Posted by BarryC
Originally Posted by Penguin

He had a lot to teach in spite of all his faults. Even for a Mason like myself who believes in God but considers the concept of Satan to be nothing but superstition of the most rank kind.


You sound like a typical gnostic.
Good catch.

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Originally Posted by RWE
I regret posting it already.

I don't want to come across as a "chapter and verse" internet evangelist, but the statement was made.

The bulk of my Father's business is done privately and in person.

Hope that doesn't make me a defacto Mason.....
Yes.

Too many folks like to turn their halos up to full power just so other men can see how brightly they shine.



(Just to be sure this is not misunderstood - NOT digging at you, RWE. I agree wholeheartedly with your statement.)


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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by RWE
...Satan has no need for secret organizations...

That makes sense. There's a lot of 'in your face' pure bad out there...!
"...your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour."
There's nothing stealthy about a "roaring lion".....he's making his presence known...!
He may appear as an angel of light, i.e., Lucifer.

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