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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
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The judge that issued this "no knock" for a [bleep] pot plant, deserves to be shot in the face.


I would surmise the KN requirements were met because they had grounds to believe the suspect ( who was a convicted felon) was armed and had more to do with element of surpise in regards to safety. And had damn little to do with the number of Pot plants


G12 he legally owned 4 firearms, so he couldn't have been a felon.



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Moments later, Magee saw a person whom he said he couldn't identify in the dark burst through his door, DeGuerin said, adding that Magee -- who has a felony and misdemeanor drug conviction -- believed the man rushing in was an intruder and he needed to defend himself.


I'm betting he did not own the firearms


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Originally Posted by curdog4570

Police recovered the semiautomatic assault rifle allegedly used to kill Sowders and several other guns the defense attorney says were legally owned.

His atty is a really sharp guy. I'm sure he knows a felon is not allowed to own firearms.





He is a convicted felon and the warrant was for weed and stolen guns. That attorney may be smart, but it doesn't make him honest. Just more reason the guys should have just caught the crook outside and then searched the house. I'm sure it wasn't his call though. Hopefully somebody will learn from this.


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Ya know Pat speakingnof Lawyers, i've always found it funny that people Like TRH bitch and whine about the police taking away their rights, ywt they are too stupid to understand that The majority of law makers are lawyers. Yet they trust those same lawyers to have their best interests and rights at heart when they hire them.


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Yea, God forbid someone should bitch when the po po violates their rights.

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With the technology available these days, I see little point in a "no-knock" warrant. A simple GPS placement on the car could have alerted the authorities when the suspect had left the home. Enter the home and seize the evidence at that time, if you're worried about it being flushed. Have other officers down the road to apprehend the suspect.

Short of this guy being a murderer or a kidnapper, exactly what else justifies a military-style raid??? I'd hardly consider drugs/pot an "immediate" threat to public safety.

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Originally Posted by mirage243
Yea, God forbid someone should bitch when the po po violates their rights.



Boy aren't you as sharp as a rubber ball. Maybe you should be bitching at the lawmakers dumbazz


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Lawyers DO protect their interest and rights, if the money is right. You're correct about how laws are orchestrated.


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Originally Posted by fburgtx
With the technology available these days, I see little point in a "no-knock" warrant. A simple GPS placement on the car could have alerted the authorities when the suspect had left the home. Enter the home and seize the evidence at that time, if you're worried about it being flushed. Have other officers down the road to apprehend the suspect.

Short of this guy being a murderer or a kidnapper, exactly what else justifies a military-style raid??? I'd hardly consider drugs/pot an "immediate" threat to public safety.




No but the stolen guns damn well should be considered an immediate threat to public safety


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Lawyers DO protect their interest and rights when the money is right. You're right about how laws are orchestrated.



I' agree, i guess my thoughts led to Public defenders.


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Originally Posted by mirage243
Yea, God forbid someone should bitch when the po po violates their rights.



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Originally Posted by Royce
One thing that concerns me is when someone posts as above "He was probably a scumbag anyway..." Constitutional rights are not parcelled out according to someone's subjective judgement of that person's merit-
We either all have rights, of none of us have them, eventually. The so called war on drugs has been used to erode all of our rights with this mentality, because at first, no one cared if the cops ran rough shod over the druggies and the "hippies" and whatever other buzz words were currently popular.
Hitler used the same mentality.
Sorry for the rant but I was brainwashed at an early age to rever the constituion- And I still do.
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Originally Posted by gitem_12
No but the stolen guns damn well should be considered an immediate threat to public safety

Then just catch the crook outside and search the house afterward.


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Originally Posted by ingwe


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Originally Posted by gitem_12
Originally Posted by fburgtx
With the technology available these days, I see little point in a "no-knock" warrant. A simple GPS placement on the car could have alerted the authorities when the suspect had left the home. Enter the home and seize the evidence at that time, if you're worried about it being flushed. Have other officers down the road to apprehend the suspect.

Short of this guy being a murderer or a kidnapper, exactly what else justifies a military-style raid??? I'd hardly consider drugs/pot an "immediate" threat to public safety.




No but the stolen guns damn well should be considered an immediate threat to public safety

Where does it say the guns were stolen?

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IF [big if] DeGuerin stays on the case, the guy will walk.

The Waco deal really soured him on Law Enforcement.

Which makes him part of a VERY large group.


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Different article.


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Originally Posted by antlers
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No but the stolen guns damn well should be considered an immediate threat to public safety

Then just catch the crook outside and search the house afterward.


I agree, i'm not a fan of no knocks. But like Pat says they have their place.

Lets take this same situation in what is probably a closely confined trailer court. Now place the cops outside wIting for him to exit, suppose he is armed and a gunfight erupts. Do you think house trailer walls are going to stop many bullets?


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
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Originally Posted by curdog4570
IF [big if] DeGuerin stays on the case, the guy will walk.

The Waco deal really soured him on Law Enforcement.

Which makes him part of a VERY large group.


If the guy didn't know they were cops, he should walk on the murder charge. That doesn't mean this particular officer did anything wrong, that this attorney is a good guy or that the shooter still doesn't deserve to be in prison.


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Originally Posted by gitem_12
But like Pat says they have their place.

Lets take this same situation in what is probably a closely confined trailer court. Now place the cops outside wIting for him to exit, suppose he is armed and a gunfight erupts. Do you think house trailer walls are going to stop many bullets?


Here's where we differ, no doubt because I'm old and washed up. There is no amount of dope worth getting a good guy killed over and he ain't gonna flush a bunch of guns.


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