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If that'd been a 30-308, he could've hit Oklahoma if facing north?

That's an interesting anecdote, and interesting "data" to base your opinion on--two kids on a ranch. And I'm sure "the old man's '06 was representative of what any 30-06 available can do.

Any time you're willing to bet real money that I can't shoot a .30-06 round two miles or more, let me know. It's funny, a guy just posted a video of .308 rounds hitting a steel target at 1450, I think it was.

That's almost a mile, shooting pretty much on the level.

Just ran a quick set of numbers with JBM, it only goes out to 3000 yards, which is 500 yards +/- short of 2 miles. A good .308 bullet launched at 2600 fps will easily make it to two miles. Check for yourself.

The one thing I will never do is let a clerk at a store like Cabela's or Academy mount a scope for me.

I recently heard a kid working at a LGS try to talk a women into buying a Taurus Judge. He said it was the best self defense pistol in the world.

Hatcher's Notebook, p.544: Maximum range for a 30-06 with a 172-grain M1 bullet at 2600 fps MV is 5500 yards (3.125 miles). Max range for a .50 Cal AP 718 bullet at MV of 2840 is 7275 yards (4.134 miles).

Presumably this is on the surface of Planet Earth at usual prevailing conditions. Yardage (mileage) will vary in other locations and conditions.

--Bob

Exactly, I wonder what the yardage would be at 5000MSL, considering that the 172 grain bullet and the 2600 MV are both conservative as far as what a 30-06 is capable of.

Ditto, here. Nobody, but NOBODY, mounts a scope on my rifles but ME!

Lost track of how many people I've encountered at our ranges, that were upset because their new rifle couldn't "find paper" and the guy that mounted the scope/bore sighted it, told them it was ready to go.

All of my scoped rifles were of my own doing and I don't own any sort of bore sighting doohickies, other than my eye. Easy enough with bolt guns and they're the only sort that wear a scope at our house.

Although I did once mount a scope on a Marlin lever rifle. Mostly just to wring out the maximum accuracy while whompin' up a load for it.

I cringe any time anyone starts talking to me in a gun shop.

Honestly, for all it's faults, the reason I am here at The Campfire is that the depth of knowledge that is here. In time almost every thread has someone step up and get the story right.

I'm the same way at the range. It seems that the guys who really know what they're doing tend to not be very "chatty."

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He may not be as dumb as he sounded.

The best clerk I've had lately was the new guy at WalMart.

I walked over, said I'd like to see if they had a certain gun. He looked at me and said, "Listen, I'm retired, I just started working here, and I know nothing about guns. You come back here behind the counter and look at whatever you want. When the manager comes back to yell at me for letting you do that, just leave. It doesn't matter to me if I get fired, I don't need this job."

He and I had a great conversation as I showed him a little about each type of gun he had in the case.

Once had a young clerk tell me that the 17 HMR was the best elk round in years.

Same here, and unlike the LGS/range, jibber-jabber can be skipped over with a <click>.

What is it about the gun shop environment that brings the idiot out of every vulnerable soul?

Was it a 30/308 or just a plain jane 308Win.???

Sometimes having a dum [bleep] for a clerk in a gun store is not a bad thing.There is a shop in midstate Wi.Who`s owner knows everything.Just ask him.Anywho I was viewing his used rifles and walla there is a Dakota 76 in 280 with a real nice hunk of English on it.Also was with a Swarovski scope.Price was $1,700.00 The hang tag said it was a Dakota 73.I told the owner it was not worth what he was asking as the 73 was the predecessor to the 76 and did not have all the bugs worked out of it.He grabbed his gun book and could not find a Dakota 73 listed.The 76 almost looked to be a 73 and thats how he came up with the hang tag.He said in that case he would pull the scope as it must be worth more than the rifle and sell me the rifle for $800.00.I hemed and hawed around and told him I would take it,but that he sure was a tough negotiator!!!! I think I pulled a Schrapnell !!

So what you're saying is that you misguided an honest man?

Or the opposite:
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I prefer the 5's for my Squirrel whacking. 4's are too big & 6's lose momentum.

I asked for .300 Savage and was handed .300 Ultra Mag.

My other favorite was that spikes do all the breeding at night when the herd bulls are sleeping.

Just remember folks, for every story about what happened to you in the LGS, or what you were told/overheard in the LGS, there's a similar story that involves the customer spouting ridiculous info.