The 4th protects you against unreasonable searches and seizures. If you seize me without a reason, that is by definition....UN-reasonable.
but some of dem boys are pretty good at coming up with "reasons".. Not too long ago I was pulled over late at night, I had not been drinking but had long hair and a 5 liter mustang. After producing papers, he said may I search your vehicle?? I said no thank you, that isn't necessary, sir. He informed me that now my vehicle smelled like weed. How odd, I thought, as I sat on the curb while he and a buddy searched away.. The fourth took that night off.
She never made it past the bedroom door, what was she aiming for...? She's gone shootin..
Driving on the highways is a privilege, not a right. I have no problem with them keeping drunks off of the road!
Mike
whatever we do to take drunk drivers off the road is fine with me....do you know anyone killed or seriously injured by someone driving drunk?
Whatever we do to take guns off the street is fine with me...do you know anyone killed or seriously injured by someone using a firearm in an unlawful manner?
Driving is not a Constitutionally protected "right" it is a privilege granted by the State government,which is elected by the people.
People have a duty to comply with the rules of the road in order to use them, that is part of the agreement when getting a license. If one doesn't want to be "checked" they can choose to not drive on the public roadways.
If the rules are to stringent then the people need to influence their representatives to change them. The same way MADD and other groups influence their Reps to toughen them.
Mike
Here ya go read it again,
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
And it's not unreasonable to see if the driver is operating a vehicle while impaired.
Roadblocks are few and far between, they act as a deterrent because people assume after the Superbowl or at night on 4th of July the po-po is going to be out looking so they use a designated driver. So it worked!
As for all of the throwing in of gun talk, that's a whole different issue and I agree we shouldn't even be required to have a carry permit because RKBA is a protected, inalienable right.
By some of y'alls definition I shouldn't have to submit to a search to get on an airplane either! How much flying y'all going to do without haji getting a pat down?
And it's not unreasonable to see if the driver is operating a vehicle while impaired.
Roadblocks are few and far between, they act as a deterrent because people assume after the Superbowl or at night on 4th of July the po-po is going to be out looking so they use a designated driver. So it worked!
Mike
So in your opinion a police officer should be allowed to stop any vehicle he chooses, regardless of cause?
Travis
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
By some of y'alls definition I shouldn't have to submit to a search to get on an airplane either! How much flying y'all going to do without haji getting a pat down?
Mike
Actually, I do say that. My entering an agreement with an airline has nothing to do with the state. And I understand the public as a whole feels they need the state to keep them safe but I do not.
Travis
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
And it's not unreasonable to see if the driver is operating a vehicle while impaired.
Roadblocks are few and far between, they act as a deterrent because people assume after the Superbowl or at night on 4th of July the po-po is going to be out looking so they use a designated driver. So it worked!
Mike
So in you opinion a police officer should be allowed to stop any vehicle he chooses, regardless of cause?
Travis
NO!! but at occasional roadblocks they can check all cars that pass through. Therefore no singling out, no stereotyping, no racial harassment.
If we are going to call for strict adherence to the 2nd Amendment, then we need to hold to the same standard over ALL of our rights.
Drunk Drivers are idjits, and need to be properly addressed, but roadblocks fly in the face of the very foundations of a society that embraces Freedom.
Those that'd turn a blind eye in the name of safety, needn't beetch and moan when the gubbiment comes for our guns...As they've already let the fox into the henhouse.
"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." - Plato
By some of y'alls definition I shouldn't have to submit to a search to get on an airplane either! How much flying y'all going to do without haji getting a pat down?
Mike
Actually, I do say that. My entering an agreement with an airline has nothing to do with the state. And I understand the public as a whole feels they need the state to keep them safe but I do not.
Travis
The State collected the money from the people to build the roads, the people chose the state to build, maintain and regulate the use of the roads, the state does that by making rules for the use of the roads, you agree to those rules when you obtain a license to operate a vehicle on those roads.
The State collected the money from the people to build the roads, the people chose the state to build, maintain and regulate the use of the roads, the state does that by making rules for the use of the roads, you agree to those rules when you obtain a license to operate a vehicle on those roads.
Mike
Ok. So you agree that since the state funded the road and the citizen acquired a license, the state has a right to stop anybody on that road, and with that license, without cause?
Travis
Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
Yes and in Georgia they check for license and insurance which every driver is required to have and if they smell alcohol, marijuana or the driver appears impaired they will proceed to investigate further if none of those signs appear you pass on in about 20 seconds.
Sparks NV police are scumbags for the most part, and they have been for the 66 years I've lived near them. Reno police are the polar opposite...professional and knowledgeable. There were also many of us instrumental in seeing to the defeat of a little Napoleon justice court Judge in Sparks, Judge Stone. He was just as discourteous to those before him as these jerks behind Sparks badges. It was, and it still is all about money and fines in Sparks Nevada.
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