Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Ammo price gouging sucks...

I don't get all the hype over bricks of 22 ammo. Are they afraid of a squirrel invasion?

laffin. Outside of punching gougers in the head, there's not a whole lot one can do to discourage greed. Other than that, I guess gun shops could ration ammo, and I think they have to some degree, but that hasn't been working so great either.

That's a very good point. I mean who was the genius that decided this shortage would be about 22 LR ammo.

I'm advocating returning to a time where we value others needs, not just our own. It's a foreign concept to most of us, myself included, but not unprecedented in history.

America is self-destructing in a little over 200 years. Why not look at the root of the problem? This isn't about 22LR, that's just a manifestation of the problem on a minuscule scale. It's not about Democrats.

The real problem is human nature unchecked, unrestrained by the Word of God. A society that rejects what God values. Pretty straight forward, not hard to see if you're not blind. I don't mean that in a condescending way. The Bible says those that haven't been enabled by the Holy Spirit are blind.

Man, that's going to go over like a pregnant high jumper carrying a volkswagen.

This little bubble created by the gougers is not capitalism. If Walmart, Cabelas, etc. raised their rates to demand the max the market could bear that would be capitalism. Frankly, I'd rather see the people who contribute to manufacturing, distribution, marketing and sales make the profit. listening to the unemployed losers who can afford to spend the work day looking for .22lr and buying it up is annoying as all hell.

P.S., anybody know why Walmart, Cabelas, etc. haven't gotten into the gouging game?

You fellas aren't making the distinction between market and black market which "gouging" is. There is always a black market for nearly every product. Think moonshine, counterfeit products from China, or more above board stuff like .22lr or Beaney Babies.

When demand is high it creates shortages that drives prices up. The normal market stays static because their suppliers have kept costs from rising. In fact, the suppliers are making more money then ever working around the clock to get ahead. The normal market simply waits for more supply, thus keeping their prices normal.

Demand will diminish in time as ammo manufacturers catch up. Then the black marketeers will be on to the next "must have" item. It isn't Capitalism, because it doesn't play by the same rules. they don't pay taxes, manufacturing, or distribution costs. They pay retail and depend on emotion driving sales.

Same thing happened with ARs last year. Black marketeers took advantage of the Newtown emotion and sold a ton of $800 rifles for $3K. The other side is the guys that "that have to have one, no matter what" and are sitting on a $3000 Bushmaster. Good luck getting your money outta that.

Flintlocks, black powder, and roll-yer-own lead balls. No shortage yet. But give the gov. some time.

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irrational exuberance drives things up.

It's a bubble market.

I stop at a store or two a week and have been able to pick up a 525 bulk pack or 100ct box or two every month at regular retail prices.

No fuggin' way I would pay $75 a brick when stores still stock it at $25. I'd take up golf.

I just wish I had cash right now. I'd be into making something - bullets, powder, loaded ammo... anything!

Gun shops have been rationing for a year now. It does not work.

To bring supply back we do not need to destroy one of the deadly sins. We only have to close the gap between market price and what retailers are selling for.

My plan does that. So what is your plan?


Travis

I know you are from Oregon, so let me help you out here...

The retailers have been trying to take care of the shooting community and its customers as a whole. That is why they have been getting cleaned out for a year now.

Hope you comprehend this.


Travis

I've got 3000 rounds on backorder that's at that price, but that order was placed 3 months ago - and it's not here yet...

Methinks it might show up in July or August...


Maybe..

I think there is gonna be a lot of $80 bricks laying next to $3k Bushmasters in people's closets real soon.

CharlieFoxTrot hit the nail on the head: There's a difference between "market" and "black market."

The only way a black market exists is when demand far exceeds supply. This happens when supply decreases or when demand increases.

In this instance supply didn't diminish. Instead Obama got reelected and somehow a bunch of shooters KNEW he was going to pass a bunch of new anti-gun laws. A few weeks later the Connecticut school shooting occurred, and the panic grew even more.

At first the rumor was the Feds were buying up all the ammo, especially .223, but six months later .223 ammo was suddenly everywhere again.

Yes, the factories are making as much rimfire ammo as ever, actually even more. But because it all gets bought up the first day it arrives at any store, most people buy far more than they ever did. Folks who'd buy a box or two when they wanted to go shoot a little now buy a brick or two every time they get a chance. Folks who used to buy a brick or two when it was on sale now buy bricks at $75--and usually not from a store.

The rimfire panic now is due to the black market that prevents stores from keeping ammo in stock, not Obama passing any new gun laws.

This right here.

(WTF? did someone else hijack your screen name?)

And the panic will subside, the black market will dry up, and those $80 bricks will still be in the closet next to the $3k Bushmasters.

Buy high and sell low seems to be the mantra of most gun show patrons.

None of this is new.

"If you die first we're splitting up your gear."

And it won't be at "market" prices.

Good luck swallowing it?