Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Ammo price gouging sucks...

I've got 3000 rounds on backorder that's at that price, but that order was placed 3 months ago - and it's not here yet...

Methinks it might show up in July or August...


Maybe..

P.S., anybody know why Walmart, Cabelas, etc. haven't gotten into the gouging game?

You fellas aren't making the distinction between market and black market which "gouging" is. There is always a black market for nearly every product. Think moonshine, counterfeit products from China, or more above board stuff like .22lr or Beaney Babies.

When demand is high it creates shortages that drives prices up. The normal market stays static because their suppliers have kept costs from rising. In fact, the suppliers are making more money then ever working around the clock to get ahead. The normal market simply waits for more supply, thus keeping their prices normal.

Demand will diminish in time as ammo manufacturers catch up. Then the black marketeers will be on to the next "must have" item. It isn't Capitalism, because it doesn't play by the same rules. they don't pay taxes, manufacturing, or distribution costs. They pay retail and depend on emotion driving sales.

Same thing happened with ARs last year. Black marketeers took advantage of the Newtown emotion and sold a ton of $800 rifles for $3K. The other side is the guys that "that have to have one, no matter what" and are sitting on a $3000 Bushmaster. Good luck getting your money outta that.

No fuggin' way I would pay $75 a brick when stores still stock it at $25. I'd take up golf.

This right here.

(WTF? did someone else hijack your screen name?)

And the panic will subside, the black market will dry up, and those $80 bricks will still be in the closet next to the $3k Bushmasters.

Buy high and sell low seems to be the mantra of most gun show patrons.

None of this is new.

I know you are from Oregon, so let me help you out here...

The retailers have been trying to take care of the shooting community and its customers as a whole. That is why they have been getting cleaned out for a year now.

Hope you comprehend this.


Travis

Listen Travis, I joke along with you about Oregon, but we both know there's nothing wrong with Oregon, it's a great state. It's fun to play around, I get it. And as much as you may think I am, I'm not stupid. We're just at different places.
I respect what you're saying. Knock the legs out from under the scalpers by raising prices at the retail stores. But then, when scalpers quit, when do prices go back down, and what do the scalpers do when that happens? They'd be right back at scalping. You can't tell me everyone is going to stock up at $75 bricks so demand will dissipate. For me, the bottom line is a societal problem, not a 22LR problem.
I think if we had been around in the era our country was founded, we would all have a different value system, probably imposed on us by a strong father, and I think it would help in us self-policing against this type of behavior. Today, we are an out-of-control, run-amok bunch of people that literally invent new ways to sin. Things not even imagined 100 years ago, like preying on old people with phone solicitations and scams, is commonplace today.
If that type of behavior had been attempted 100 years ago, society would have tarred and feathered the perp. Self-policing, politeness and a duty to do what's right.
Now, we call the POLICE and the govt is expected to fix it. We're not allowed to tar and feather anyone, whether they need it or not.
If someone is caught doing something wrong, if he can get a great lawyer, maybe he can get away with it. Think OJ Simpson. Wouldn't have been tolerated long ago. Now it's tolerated, and even embraced by corrupt, sinful, and prideful, arrogant people.
I just see this as a symptom of a much larger problem. One that needs to be solved by introspection, not retail price manipulation.
No matter how many angles from Sunday you twist this thing, you'll always be back at the problem of people lacking restraint and not doing what's good for society rather than themselves.

There isn't anyway (legally) to stop pirates from creating the next shortage because, as Mule Deer suggested, there hasn't been any real reason for all this nonsense anyway.

Sooner or later the closets, safes, lockers, underground storage tubes and credit cards will max out. Production will catch up it's just a matter of time.

That's some Grade A rambling. You even managed to touch on the OJ Simpson case.


Travis

Whatever.

I have agree if there were any logic behind what the next "shortage" will be. There isn't anyway (legally) to stop pirates from creating the next shortage because, as Mule Deer suggested, there hasn't been any real reason for all this nonsense anyway. I've lived through primer, powder, handgun ammo, high capacity mags, AR-15's etc etc.