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Man... schit show at best!

I had thoughts of listing a pretty nice pre-64 Fwt 243 here soon, but I'm a little scared now!

Does it include the factory bipod?

No need to be scared. Be upfront and forthright with a nice array of photos.If someone asks a question, answer the question.

How much??

I'm surprised that the subject of BATFE's definition of an "unlicensed dealer" has not come up in this thread or the Ruger Charger thread. IMO, there is not enough money to be made buying & selling guns to take that risk, especially if you are pissing people off in the process.

Richard,

Regretfully no on the bipod. Fortunately, it does have the factory compass in the buttstock though!

Jason... that's one of two questions I'm still wrestling with. The other one is if I should get rid of it!

I'm sure that was a rare (probably non-cataloged) option, and should increase the value at least $500. It'd be worth even more if it still had the factory picatinny rails...

No chit. No reason to be "scared" unless you are trying to hide something. There are plenty of guys here that know the ins and outs of the pre 64 model 70's, so that can actually be a blessing in disguise. It helps to keep everyone honest...

That's no problem, just update it with a garmin and you'll be in business.

Most here are just selling their personal firearms, perhaps to get something else that they just have to have. Others are what I call "flippers" perhaps in the business perhaps just addicted. I always look at these as suspect. Many times they are either over priced or not quite what was described, or both. I have enough trouble supporting my own addictions, I will not support someone else's.

Well, there are "flippers" and then there are those in the business of selling guns and who advertise as "like new" a gun that has obviously been modified and appears to have been assembled from various parts lots.

Personally I'm happy these conversations go on here - I know of a gun Mark sold to a good standing member here that was screwed up- needed a new mag box to function, and the buyer has been polite enough to keep quiet through all of this. I pride myself as do many others here of being stand up guys who will stand behind anything they sell and can afford to buy it back if need be. Makes the honest guys here look even better when this crap goes on.

Well said Killer, and I agree.

I see this in a lot of the items I sell here. Many come back up for sale at higher prices than I sold them for. Its all good I guess. It burns me a bit sometimes as I have been naive enough to believe that this site is here to avoid places like gunbroker and other rip off sites , but lately it seems to have changed more to a making money site , lots of good folks and info here , but the op in this thread seems to be running a suspect track record in the least.

Ladies and Gentlemen:

Caveat emptor ("Let the buyer beware." - Black's Law Dictionary, 1984, page 202) applies here:

http://insurance.oregon.gov/admin_actions/actions_2011/producer_2011/10-02-005.pdf

Sincerely,

Chris Bemis

A "No Return" policy should be a HUGE red flag!!! In online sales you are buying based on the sellers word and his ability and willingness to capture decent photos which is NOTHING like having the gun in hand. Especially when dealing with Collectables and Relics!
I'd take back any gun I've ever sold on here because I sold them at a very fair price.

Wow! I guess where there's smoke.....

Well, that pretty well nails it in my mind....

Exactly. It really doesn't help when the seller skirts around basic questions, and constantly comes up with excuses. Terrible pictures aren't helping the cause, either.



Very interesting....