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The 30-06 with 220's ?
The 338 with 250's ?
The 9.3x62 with 286's ?
The .375 with 300's ?
The .416 with 400's ?
Or 458's with 500's ?
What I really want to know is which is better - the .270 or the 30-06 ?
 Often wondered about that myself ; was hoping someone would get around to discussing it....... 
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I dunno if I've killed "enough" game, but I reckon I can see a difference when making the step from my 270 Win and 130g bullets to the 30-06 with 180 grainers.
Especially on pigs, and especially at less than optimum shot angles, the 30-06 whops them faster.
My shooting is varied. Some standing shots at undisturbed animals, some at running animals. Pigs, goats, deer. The odd scrub bull or wild horse.
The difference is less noticeable when I use 150 or 160 grainers in the 270, but it is still discernible especially on running game.
My next project is based on the 338 WM and while I have an open mind, I believe its likely the step up from the 30-06 will be also noticeable. I think you are right. I have seen the same thing with those 2 cartridges on Aussie feral game and have reported it here before. I look at it this way, the .30/06 is to 200 pound animals what the .375H&H is to 800 pound animals. There certainly is marginal jump that can be noted as well as a differential that is more obvious over a range of kills. A friend and I shot 2 bull moose side by side, one was ~1000 lbs the other ~1200 lbs, The larger took 3 well placed .358/250gr bullets to knock down , his 308Win 180gr bullets took one on the 1000 lb animal. Both were dead at the first hit but a surgically placed 308 rolled the animal. This past season 30-06-200gr NAB put my moose, ~800lbs, down so quick all 4 legs were in the air, he was hit in the sweet spot. So, yes use enough bullet , at the correct speed for it to perform in a cartridge and rifle that you can control for those surgical hits.
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Moose, aside from CNS hits, tip over for their own reasons and in their own time. I can think of only three moose I've shot which tipped over at the shot. The first was with a 190 Hornady out of a 30-06 through the bare slats at under 50 yards; the next a <200 yard shot with a 225 XFB in the 340 through both scapula knuckles; the last a 213 yard shot with a 250 Gameking from 340 that angled forward past the kidney. (That was really a poor shot, but you'd never know it by the effects.) I've shot moose that took four shots without tipping over from any of them, one of those even with a 340 and 850 grains of gross bullet weight.
There are so many variables, I don't know that one would be able to easily quantify a solid answer.
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The 30-06 with 220's ?
The 338 with 250's ?
The 9.3x62 with 286's ?
The .375 with 300's ?
The .416 with 400's ?
Or 458's with 500's ?
What I really want to know is which is better - the .270 or the 30-06 ?
Often wondered about that myself ; was hoping someone would get around to discussing it....... Well that wasn't really the point I was making. Moreso, that in many instances I can tell the differences.
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Moose, aside from CNS hits, tip over for their own reasons and in their own time. I can think of only three moose I've shot which tipped over at the shot. The first was with a 190 Hornady out of a 30-06 through the bare slats at under 50 yards; the next a <200 yard shot with a 225 XFB in the 340 through both scapula knuckles; the last a 213 yard shot with a 250 Gameking from 340 that angled forward past the kidney. (That was really a poor shot, but you'd never know it by the effects.) I've shot moose that took four shots without tipping over from any of them, one of those even with a 340 and 850 grains of gross bullet weight.
There are so many variables, I don't know that one would be able to easily quantify a solid answer. Fur sure, some of them give it up easier than others. Get allot more first shot knock downs with bullets in .358, .366 and .375, not so much with the 30's and under.
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I no longer use a bullet lighter than 180gr on deer. I've used same load on pigs. They work well. In 338 or 35 caliber I use 250 grain no sense in using a light bullet when you can use a heavy. Light bullets suck.
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Moose, aside from CNS hits, tip over for their own reasons and in their own time. I can think of only three moose I've shot which tipped over at the shot. The first was with a 190 Hornady out of a 30-06 through the bare slats at under 50 yards; the next a <200 yard shot with a 225 XFB in the 340 through both scapula knuckles; the last a 213 yard shot with a 250 Gameking from 340 that angled forward past the kidney. (That was really a poor shot, but you'd never know it by the effects.) I've shot moose that took four shots without tipping over from any of them, one of those even with a 340 and 850 grains of gross bullet weight.
There are so many variables, I don't know that one would be able to easily quantify a solid answer. This last sentence is, I think accurate, and applicable to every situation with any species of game animal.
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The 30-06 with 220's ?
The 338 with 250's ?
The 9.3x62 with 286's ?
The .375 with 300's ?
The .416 with 400's ?
Or 458's with 500's ?
What I really want to know is which is better - the .270 or the 30-06 ?
The trail is leading to the .284 Win.
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This thread has been officially baptized as we head down the comparison of 270 vs. 30-06 only to be trumped by a 284 of some sort!
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I think you would be fine with any mentioned in this thread. Not trying to state the obvious and certainly as a fellow looney, if the 9.3x62 is intriguing you, go for it! We are lucky to live in a place (so far) where we can enjoy such choices.
For recoil, so many variables. My 35 Whelen in CDL is more pleasant than some 270's and '06's in other platforms I have shot.
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I'd go for the 9.3x62mm too. Mine is an absolute sweet shooter and knocks the heck out of elk (only had it long enough to shoot 1 elk). Hey, for those of you looking for a good deal on the 180 gr. partition for your 06, here it is: http://www.shootersproshop.com/nosl...0-180gr-partition-spitzer-blem-50ct.htmlThese are the epitome of elk killing bullets in the good ol '06... 
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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![[Linked Image]](http://www.hunt101.com/data/556/medium/IMG_001114.JPG) But they don't work, and you can see why........can't hit with them, even at 300 yards, and even on yer hind legs. (Alright, so that was a moose that walked in the way and then staggered around momentarily.... )
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But they don't work, and you can see why........can't hit with them, even at 300 yards, and even on yer hind legs. (Alright, so that was a moose that walked in the way and then staggered around momentarily.... ) Lucky shot. Have been told that game cannot be killed unless it's an AI! Grin
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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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The 30-06 with 220's ?
The 338 with 250's ?
The 9.3x62 with 286's ?
The .375 with 300's ?
The .416 with 400's ?
Or 458's with 500's ?
What I really want to know is which is better - the .270 or the 30-06 ?
.30'06 of course!
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The 30-06 with 220's ?
The 338 with 250's ?
The 9.3x62 with 286's ?
The .375 with 300's ?
The .416 with 400's ?
Or 458's with 500's ?
What I really want to know is which is better - the .270 or the 30-06 ?
.30'06 of course! I just assumed it was a rhetorical question. We all know which one is better 
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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The 30-06 with 220's ?
The 338 with 250's ?
The 9.3x62 with 286's ?
The .375 with 300's ?
The .416 with 400's ?
Or 458's with 500's ?
What I really want to know is which is better - the .270 or the 30-06 ? I'd consider the .270, IF it was loaded strictly with the 180-gr. Protected Point from Woodleigh. That's a righteous bullet, IMO.
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Awesome picture BSA! That 9.3x62 is very alluring. I love my Whelen and 338 Win Mag, but it wouldn't take me much prodding to do a 9.3x62 either.
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Well when the gal gets mad, would rather be hit with a slimjim or a braut?
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