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The tools I have:

Rifle: Kimber Montana 223. Twisted 1:9
Scope: SWFA SS 12x42 Mil Quad/Mil clicks. In Talleys.
Bullets: 69 Matchking and 70 VLD

Suggestions on taking this set-up to 1000?

Just got the scope in yesterday, and it feels like a dang telescope over the 2-8x32 CDS Leupold that sits on there. I'm hesitant to use it, but I'm just not sure a better deal for a reliable long range scope exists. $299 is tough to beat, even if I just use it in the off season to play. No doubt it doesn't fit the little Montana, but I'm not sure there are any svelte scopes with a Mil reticle and enough travel to take me to 1000.

Looking forward to hearing tips from others who have taken a 223 to 1000.

Thanks!

1. Load a 75AM and hope it stabilizes.

2. Zero scope.

3. Dial dope for 1000 yards, make wind call, hold windage.

4. Pull trigger.

5. Adjust come-up/wind hold as needed.

6. Done.

If I could find a box of 100 to buy, I would try them. Can only find in a big box of 5 or 600, can't remember. Will have to see if the 70 VLD gets there.

Thanks for the steps Jordan. Will post here on my attempts.

It will, it'll just take a little more finesse in your wind call

My post was mostly TIC, but getting to 1000 with a .223 is no different than with any other rifle. It just takes a little more skill in the wind, than more slippery bullets started faster.

Does the rifle feel silly with a 20+ oz scope on it?

My Kimber stabilizes the 75 grain Amax, and shoots them into little tiny clusters.

I would recommend buying the 600 count....if you decide you don't like them they will sell via the classifieds in about 5 seconds.

Getting a 223 to 1000 is no big feat; though it isn't my first choice when the wind really gets to whipping.

Have not mounted it yet. Really just got the scope to try playing out at long distance steel gongs. I figured for $299, hard to go wrong. And if I don't like, it seems to be a well respected scope that resells fairly well.

Yep. That.

1K is a breeze and there's lotsa ways to get there.

6x Fixed [bleep] on a Montucky 7 Whizzum and it do nice thangs to 2000yds ++.



'Nother on a 18.5" 1-8" Rock barreled 223AI and it'll reach a mile.



In fairness,C-Note now wears Leupie DD's to retain the 6x Fixed [bleep].

I'd say sell that fugg'n scope and stick with something more appropriate for the chassis. Oh, wait...

You'd set on your kchunt and put colored water in your Super Soaker,as a best case scenario.

Oh...wait.

Laffin'!

Yes, it's for sale. Too much scope for the Montana in my opinion. Anyone want it?

Going to go with either the a Weaver grand slam tactical or a Leupold Mark AR Mod 1. Both one inch tubes, both Mil/Mil, both can get me to 1000 using reticle and clicks.

Tough to get giddy about a paltry 5 Mils of vertical on the reticle...just like it's always been tough to get giddy about.(grin) 1K ain't beginning to happen,with 5 Mils. Hint.

The Mark AR is one I'd not trust to track(the two I've shot,didn't) and Weaver's best pitch remains a fixed T-Series. The T's are best suited to Light Duty affairs and their parallax adjustment do no favors in the field,as Utility Killing Rifles go. Just sayin'.

A 6x42 will reliably get a SAAMI 223 Montucky to 1K,as will a 3.5-10x,both/either wearing LW's. DD/Signatures sweeten the pot,if only obviously.

Hint.



I've hated regular Mildots for decades now and would much rather Duplex/M1 things and happily MOA.

Food for thought...SAAMI 223 Montucky flingin' 75 A-Max smooches at 2940fps,via LW's and 1" 3.5-10x. With it's 225yd zero,it burns but 32MOA to the 1000yd line at sea level.




I'm not a fan of the 2-7X,but with LW's,you'll have fair to middlin' erector travel available to you. The 12x Fixed [bleep] do nothing for me in the equation,but I'd whirl a 6x Fixed [bleep] in a heartbeat,if only to drive it's killer reticle. Pun be intended.

69's suck heavy ass.

Hint.











Great WaPoozy,

You certainly get horned up easily and is tough on closets. One thing is for CERTAIN about you...when it's all said and done,there's going to be a LOT more said than done. Laffin'!

Bless your heart.

Looking forward to a fresh batch of Excuses,to accommodate your high-pitched nasal Whine.

Here's to your Imagination and to just how [bleep] badly you need it.

Laffin'!

Thanks for input boxer.

Currently have a VX2 2-7x33 with CDS dial that has tracked well for me.

Duplex reticle.

That set up get me to 1000?

65MOA of adjustment in that little VX2

Too [bleep] funny...The Great WaPoozy took her marbles and ran [bleep] home! I reckon the only move the Stupid Kchunt ever has,is to Delete,Punt and Run. Laffin'!

Anywhoo,let's continue the Theme ala 1" Leupie's to 1000 and beyond,via 223 Montucky.



You boys just might talk me into a Montucky 223 yet.(grin)

Just took out the 223 Montana with the 2-7 CDS. Have it zeroed at 100, still getting enough up in the CDS dial to get 32 MOA up for the AMAX or 40 up for the 70 VLD. Seems like that little scope will get me to ringing steel at 1000 if I can do my job with the wind.

CDS simply sucks heavy ass for all things...which won't take you too long to finger out.(grin) M1's so [bleep] rule.

Reservations in regards to the platform from there,would be in the 2-7X's erector tracking and in POA/POI shifts in the zoom selector's range. I'd go right to flogging on 100yd paper in nice atmospheric conditions(no wind) and make the tracking PROVE itself there,in beeg swings(from your 100yd zero to 1K,in say 5MOA increments) and shift power along the way,to really see WTF. I'd be wanting to see killer repeats and lineal movement from stat to finish. You can then factor those values and have better info on your LR dope,from the onset. Hint.

Hopefully she sings and you are there.

Appreciate the input. If she doesn't sing, maybe I build a Fix 6 with the M1, or a 3-10 with the M1. Don't much mind the CDS, nice little low profile turret. Just can't use gloves, and they do like to get twisty when spinning quick. Just killing steel here, no animals to harm

Do as Boxer says, but make sure to test POI fidelity when changing magnification in a separate operation from testing the elevation tracking. That way if you get POI's where they shouldn't be, it's easier to isolate the cause.

Ok question: If I don't plan to move the scope from 7x while shooting at longer range, what would be the reason behind testing POI when changing magnification?

I can fully understand running the CDS to check the erector system (box text I assume?). How does changing up the magnification on a variable power if I don't plan to shoot long range with any less than the upper magnification?

Have the feeling I'm behind the curve on some of this. Willing to learn.

As a secondary question: Why no love for the Mil Dot? It seems like a great way to "gain" elevation in a scope with limited travel in the erector system. Again - am I behind the learning curve on this? Take a one inch tube scope, add a Mil Dot, and it seems like a great combo to keep a rifle light AND have the tools to stretch it for fun. Can use a combo of Mils in the reticle and clicks in the erector to ring steel out long. Yes? No?