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Considering how split the country is on matters such as this, it seems that people are soon going to have to start opposing such intrusions with the power of relocation.


Much as I hate to cede real estate, this might be the only realistic form of direct action available.


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It makes complete sense and what I've said. Hey, if you want to keep giving state income tax, high property tax, sales tax etc to a state that wants to take away freedoms, you are as much to blame as anyone.


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Darn, Bristoe. This is the first truly rational suggestion you've had in ages.

Originally Posted by Bristoe
... it seems that people are soon going to have to start opposing such intrusions with the power of relocation.

Americans who choose to be free (or as free as possible in these troubling times) should move into states where people of a like mindset reside.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Considering how split the country is on matters such as this, it seems that people are soon going to have to start opposing such intrusions with the power of relocation.

Americans who choose to be free (or as free as possible in these troubling times) should move into states where people of a like mindset reside.

If enough self sufficient, freedom minded people would abandon those states which are heavily socialist, those states would soon collapse from lack of tax revenue.

Continuing to live in those states allows them to prosper (and control you) with your own money.

Move away,...allow them to wither.



I did that....moved and am prepared to do it again. The problem is that States in decline will receive from the States with "surplus" via the Feds. That leak needs to be plugged for us to move and leave in peace.



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Originally Posted by Bristoe
... it seems that people are soon going to have to start opposing such intrusions with the power of relocation.

Americans who choose to be free (or as free as possible in these troubling times) should move into states where people of a like mindset reside.
It's called The Free State Project.

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Yes, Hawkeye. But this is real progress for Bristoe. He's usually advising people to move to the Czech Republic.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Considering how split the country is on matters such as this, it seems that people are soon going to have to start opposing such intrusions with the power of relocation.

Americans who choose to be free (or as free as possible in these troubling times) should move into states where people of a like mindset reside.

If enough self sufficient, freedom minded people would abandon those states which are heavily socialist, those states would soon collapse from lack of tax revenue.

Continuing to live in those states allows them to prosper (and control you) with your own money.

Move away,...allow them to wither.


No way in hell is that going to work.

These states like CT are having a Constitutional meltdown because they (70%) voted for it and are in favor of it.

You want these same people that have Destroyed CT with their Socialist mind set, to move in droves to Conservative Constitutional Loving States and bring their beliefs and voting records with them?

How dumb is that?

Ask the citizens of CO, how the flood of Liberal loonies to their state has helped them out?

I say stay home, stay in CT and wallow in your Socialist swill, you deserve it.

Texas is the next State to be flooded by Socialist that have destroyed their homeland in hopes to turn Texas as Blue as the state they just left.


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Originally Posted by steve4102

Ask the citizens of CO, how the flood of Liberal loonies to their state has helped them out?



Colorado is a reverse example of what I suggested.

It's obviously effective,..by your own admission.

Socialists have turned Colorado Socialist.

Freedom minded people who congregate together in a state would make that state freedom oriented.

As it is now, you have freedom oriented people living in states that have been hopelessly contaminated by socialism.

The socialism feeds off of them.

Leave,..and let the socialists try to live off of each other.


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Originally Posted by tjm10025

Yes, Hawkeye. But this is real progress for Bristoe. He's usually advising people to move to the Czech Republic.


http://everything-everywhere.com/20...not-have-known-about-the-czech-republic/

The Czech Republic has the highest standard of living of any former Soviet Bloc country. Current per capita GDP is on a par with western European countries like Portugal and Greece. They have the most hospital beds per capita in the EU, the highest rate of secondary education, and the 5th freest press in the world according to Reporters Without Borders. Per capita GDP in Prague is higher than any other EU country except for Luxembourg.

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Firearm laws there seem to fall under the "no big deal" category.

http://www.weapon-blog.com/2011/11/comparing-gun-laws-around-the-world/

4. Czech Republic � The gun laws in the Czech Republic are considered to be more liberal that most European countries. Anyone over the age of 18 who has no criminal record may own a firearm, though certain licenses are only permitted to those aged 21 and up. Citizens may also carry concealed weapons without specifying a reason.

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Originally Posted by tjm10025
Darn, Bristoe. This is the first truly rational suggestion you've had in ages.

Originally Posted by Bristoe
... it seems that people are soon going to have to start opposing such intrusions with the power of relocation.

Americans who choose to be free (or as free as possible in these troubling times) should move into states where people of a like mindset reside.


Run and hide? Did that work for the Colonists? King George sent his conscripts after them.

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The migration patterns west, before the War Between the States, were mainly straight west. Virginians settled Kentucky. Kentuckians settled Missouri and Missourians settled Kansas...oops. The latter was true until the Abolitionists figured out they didn't want another slave territory which would turn into a slave state. So wealthy abolitionists actually paid people to come to Kansas and vote. History records several vote on slavery and statehood and by and large blames pro-slavery Missourians for upsetting the vote. Today the Democrat party are the bad guys and they vote multiple times. The Republicans were the liberals of the day and they carted people in to vote making the Missourians who were the Democrats and conservatives of the day counter by riding in to the territory the same way and voting. From 1854 to 1856 southern types held dominance in Kansas. 1857 was the tipping point. By 1858 and on the free staters held sway.

So it works but it seems like the other side is the more likely to do it.

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Originally Posted by Plinker
Originally Posted by tjm10025
Darn, Bristoe. This is the first truly rational suggestion you've had in ages.

Originally Posted by Bristoe
... it seems that people are soon going to have to start opposing such intrusions with the power of relocation.

Americans who choose to be free (or as free as possible in these troubling times) should move into states where people of a like mindset reside.


Run and hide? Did that work for the Colonists? King George sent his conscripts after them.


Choosing not to live in a sewer isn't "hiding".

But I won't try to sway your thoughts one way or the other.

If you want to jump into the belly of the beast,..be my guest.

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Any realtors around that live in a good state? Want to get some folks in to dilute the progressives and hipsters that will transform your home into California and Connecticut? "Liberty Location Listings, come see us and live where you can breathe and your children will grow up as citizens not subjects."

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by steve4102

Ask the citizens of CO, how the flood of Liberal loonies to their state has helped them out?



Colorado is a reverse example of what I suggested.

It's obviously effective,..by your own admission.

Socialists have turned Colorado Socialist.

Freedom minded people who congregate together in a state would make that state freedom oriented.

As it is now, you have freedom oriented people living in states that have been hopelessly contaminated by socialism.

The socialism feeds off of them.

Leave,..and let the socialists try to live off of each other.



You are "assuming" that these so called "freedom loving" people are also smart enough to know that Voting does have consequences. Apparently the Freedom lovers in CT haven't figured that one out yet.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
It makes complete sense and what I've said. Hey, if you want to keep giving state income tax, high property tax, sales tax etc to a state that wants to take away freedoms, you are as much to blame as anyone.


100% correct. That's why TN is on my list.


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"...Voting does have consequences. Apparently the Freedom lovers in CT haven't figured that one out yet."

Meaning A>they lost and they should just sit and take it or B> they were so stupid they got outnumbered at the polls on election day or C>What?



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Steelhead covered that in one of his first posts. It is obvious from the last presidential election that the majority of people in Connecticut complaining about current events either voted Democrat, or not at all.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by steve4102

Ask the citizens of CO, how the flood of Liberal loonies to their state has helped them out?



Colorado is a reverse example of what I suggested.

It's obviously effective,..by your own admission.

Socialists have turned Colorado Socialist.

Freedom minded people who congregate together in a state would make that state freedom oriented.

As it is now, you have freedom oriented people living in states that have been hopelessly contaminated by socialism.

The socialism feeds off of them.

Leave,..and let the socialists try to live off of each other.



You are "assuming" that these so called "freedom loving" people are also smart enough to know that Voting does have consequences. Apparently the Freedom lovers in CT haven't figured that one out yet.
The problem with both sides is they don't love all freedom. The people in Colorado want legal weed. I don't smoke it, but I think you should be able to if you want. But the dope smokers think it's okay to take my guns away. That's the way it is in a lot of places. I could go on but that's the point. Seems like a lot of the problem as far as just folks, is their inability to not [bleep] with the other fellow. If folks would just stay out of each other's business a lot of stuff would solve itself.

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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Steelhead covered that in one of his first posts. It is obvious from the last presidential election that the majority of people in Connecticut complaining about current events either voted Democrat, or not at all.
I don't want a bunch of "pro-freedom" or even "pro-gun" Californians moving en-masse to Kansas. There are some great people out there and there are others who've heads we've gotten turned around after they've been on the fire here awhile. The average "pro-gun" Californio though is IMO, pretty much what we'd call anti-gun here. Just one vote on universal registration or the like, could be disasterous.

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