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Right, so the citizens of CT should stay home and continue voting for the Socialist regime they are so proud to be a part of.

Helping them with protests and financial contributions to fight these laws are A-Kin to enabling a child.

The child keeps making the same mistakes over and over, each and every time his/her parents bail the child out and fix the mess. The same is with CT, vote Democrat, vote anti-gun Legislation then cry for help. Once the problem is solved by others, they go right back to the voting booth and start this [bleep] allover again.

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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Steelhead covered that in one of his first posts. It is obvious from the last presidential election that the majority of people in Connecticut complaining about current events either voted Democrat, or not at all.


The social Balkanization of America scares a lot of people, but it shouldn't. It is a rational solution to a problem that's too big to put a lid on.


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Originally Posted by tjm10025
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Steelhead covered that in one of his first posts. It is obvious from the last presidential election that the majority of people in Connecticut complaining about current events either voted Democrat, or not at all.


The social Balkanization of America scares a lot of people, but it shouldn't. It is a rational solution to a problem that's too big to put a lid on.

It should scare a lot of people. IMO if you take what Bristoe is saying to heart, there are only a few states safe to move to. I wouldn't trust states that haven't voted 60% or better against Obama in the last two elections. In the 2012 election alone there were Alabama, Tennessee (rounded up), Kentucky, Arkansas, West Virginia, Kansas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Wyoming, Idaho and Utah that did so. That's 22% of the states. I don't know what percentage of the population that is, but I'd say all are considered flyover states as far as electoral votes are concerned. One seaport if this mass of states was a country. Contiguous only if you count Tennessee which was actually at 59.5%.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/election-map-2012/president/

Personally, I think such a smaller country would be easier to manage and more amenable to individual liberty, but how long before the old, liberal fascistic/communistic states decided they needed our natural resources? How long before they decided that the individual liberties of our citizens were being trampled by us and they decided to force democracy on us like Iraq and Afghanistan?

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[quote=steve4102] Right, so the citizens of CT should stay home and continue voting for the Socialist regime they are so proud to be a part of.

Helping them with protests and financial contributions to fight these laws are A-Kin to enabling a child.

The child keeps making the same mistakes over and over, each and every time his/her parents bail the child out and fix the mess. The same is with CT, vote Democrat, vote anti-gun Legislation then cry for help. Once the problem is solved by others, they go right back to the voting booth and start this [bleep] allover again.
A Liberal will never learn, never. [/quote

So, I being a CT resident who has voted in every election since I came back to the state in 1998, a staunch republican who voted bush, McCain and Romney and against every liberal asswipe that's run for anything in this state, don't deserve a little support in defending my god given rights in this state? And donating to the CCDL or NRA to help our fight is undeserving? Ya think they'll just give those donations over to the libs? Do you think anybody here that's looking for support is a liberal like you claim us to be? If you and I both believe in the 2nd amendment and the rest of the constitution of the United States, isn't that common enough ground to stand side by side? Apparently since I'm the vast minority in this state I don't deserve constitutional rights? I find your generalizations to be offensive and disgusting.

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If you're paying state income tax, property tax and sales tax you are just giving it over the the libs. Congratulations?


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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards

Personally, I think such a smaller country would be easier to manage and more amenable to individual liberty, but how long before the old, liberal fascistic/communistic states decided they needed our natural resources? How long before they decided that the individual liberties of our citizens were being trampled by us and they decided to force democracy on us like Iraq and Afghanistan?


You don't have to look at states with voting records that you like and say that this is where we will plant the flag of freedom.

1. Pick a region of the country with the resources you want. Arable land, fresh water, minerals, sea ports. Move yourself and like-minded people there. It will take decades, even generations to accomplish. And, in the process ...

2. Displace those who are not like-minded. Strenuously encourage them to move to California or New York. It's not like England expelling the Jews in the middle ages. Welfare moms would still get to live in the USA.

Eventually, this new balkanized region may wish to break away, but there has to be considerable industrial and agricultural wealth, as well as a highly-motivated and aggressive majority who are willing to repel boarders with violence to make it work.

Please note: I am not talking about white supremicist biker gangs holed up in the mountains of Idaho and Montana, who dream of creating an independent republic based on what they imagine to be the Founders' first principles. Far from it.

I am talking about a viable population in the scores of millions. That's why I'm saying it would take decades and generations. You would have to think in near-glacial terms.

I said earlier that it was rational. I did not say it would be easy. And I do not say that it would be risk-free.

The Chinese think long-term. We can, too. Maybe. White people have notoriously short attention spans.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
If you're paying state income tax, property tax and sales tax you are just giving it over the the libs. Congratulations?

So stop? Or leave the state?

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Yep, but apparently many like the shelter in place approach.


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Originally Posted by jmillo
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If you're paying state income tax, property tax and sales tax you are just giving it over the the libs. Congratulations?

So stop? Or leave the state?


Can you stop? Not likely, so leaving is the only option. If you're in a bar and can't swing a dead cat without hitting a few dozen lesbians are you going to A) stick it out and hope you can convert them or B) go to a bar with a bunch of red blooded, cock loving women?


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Yep, but apparently many like the shelter in place approach.

My family and I have discussed leaving the state, and will ASAP. It breaks my heart to see my home state go so far left.......I guess it's hard to let go of what I've called home for 35 yrs. We hope with each election things will get better.....alas they only get worse. But if I bail on the state, how long before this liberal anti constitutional mindset shows up on my doorstep in my new home state?

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Again, find a state filled with like minded folks. It ain't a shock to anyone I know that that NE is the way it is and never has been in my entire lifetime.


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You're not alone. It happened here, and we're snapping at your heels. When urbanites move in the whole neighborhood goes to hll.


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Originally Posted by tjm10025
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards

Personally, I think such a smaller country would be easier to manage and more amenable to individual liberty, but how long before the old, liberal fascistic/communistic states decided they needed our natural resources? How long before they decided that the individual liberties of our citizens were being trampled by us and they decided to force democracy on us like Iraq and Afghanistan?


You don't have to look at states with voting records that you like and say that this is where we will plant the flag of freedom.

1. Pick a region of the country with the resources you want. Arable land, fresh water, minerals, sea ports. Move yourself and like-minded people there. It will take decades, even generations to accomplish. And, in the process ...

2. Displace those who are not like-minded. Strenuously encourage them to move to California or New York. It's not like England expelling the Jews in the middle ages. Welfare moms would still get to live in the USA.

Eventually, this new balkanized region may wish to break away, but there has to be considerable industrial and agricultural wealth, as well as a highly-motivated and aggressive majority who are willing to repel boarders with violence to make it work.

Please note: I am not talking about white supremicist biker gangs holed up in the mountains of Idaho and Montana, who dream of creating an independent republic based on what they imagine to be the Founders' first principles. Far from it.

I am talking about a viable population in the scores of millions. That's why I'm saying it would take decades and generations. You would have to think in near-glacial terms.

I said earlier that it was rational. I did not say it would be easy. And I do not say that it would be risk-free.

The Chinese think long-term. We can, too. Maybe. White people have notoriously short attention spans.

I don't think you understood what I was saying because I was probably being overly nice.

I already live in a place that's okay. We don't want, for instance, a bunch of Yankees from Indiana moving in here and voting for [bleep] universal registration or the like because they don't think it's a "slippery slope" or whatever. We just want to be left alone. Plus I seem to recall a bunch of y'all talking about how it was sedition just to speak of secession just a few years back. Yankee go home.

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Originally Posted by jmillo
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Yep, but apparently many like the shelter in place approach.

My family and I have discussed leaving the state, and will ASAP. It breaks my heart to see my home state go so far left.......I guess it's hard to let go of what I've called home for 35 yrs. We hope with each election things will get better.....alas they only get worse. But if I bail on the state, how long before this liberal anti constitutional mindset shows up on my doorstep in my new home state?


Depends on how many of your fellow CT citizens follow you. The more that follow, the faster your new home will be Socialist.

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Originally Posted by steve4102
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Yep, but apparently many like the shelter in place approach.

My family and I have discussed leaving the state, and will ASAP. It breaks my heart to see my home state go so far left.......I guess it's hard to let go of what I've called home for 35 yrs. We hope with each election things will get better.....alas they only get worse. But if I bail on the state, how long before this liberal anti constitutional mindset shows up on my doorstep in my new home state?


Depends on how many of your fellow CT citizens follow you. The more that follow, the faster your new home will be Socialist.


You sir......are straight doosh. GFY.

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Originally Posted by jmillo
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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Yep, but apparently many like the shelter in place approach.

My family and I have discussed leaving the state, and will ASAP. It breaks my heart to see my home state go so far left.......I guess it's hard to let go of what I've called home for 35 yrs. We hope with each election things will get better.....alas they only get worse. But if I bail on the state, how long before this liberal anti constitutional mindset shows up on my doorstep in my new home state?


Depends on how many of your fellow CT citizens follow you. The more that follow, the faster your new home will be Socialist.


You sir......are straight doosh. GFY.


Name calling to sidestep the truth, HMMMM where have I run across that before? OH, I know from the Left Wing play book, criticize anyone or anything in Obama's Regime and you are called a "Racist".

Your fellow CT Socialist have taught you well Grasshopper.


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So now I'm a liar? And a socialist? Believe what you will, think what you'd like....just know I'd have empathy for you if you were in the same situation. I'd stand by your side and fight for your rights out there in Duluth without judging you by where you live. I cannot fathom your bias or belligerence , but to each his own. I hope for your sake that MN isn't next.........

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Originally Posted by jmillo
So now I'm a liar? And a socialist? Believe what you will, think what you'd like....just know I'd have empathy for you if you were in the same situation. I'd stand by your side and fight for your rights out there in Duluth without judging you by where you live. I cannot fathom your bias or belligerence , but to each his own. I hope for your sake that MN isn't next.........


Like I posted earlier, I am in the same boat as you. MN is next. According to the News letters from some very strong 2nd Amendment organization that I belong to, MN is being flooded with money from out east and Bloomberg.

I will fight and I will fund the best I can, but if/when MN goes down the way of CT, I will have nobody to blame but myself and my fellow gun owner as I did not do enough, like YOU.


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but if/when MN goes down the way of CT, I will have nobody to blame but myself and my fellow gun owner as I did not do enough, like YOU.



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The problem with both sides is they don't love all freedom. The people in Colorado want legal weed. I don't smoke it, but I think you should be able to if you want. But the dope smokers think it's okay to take my guns away. That's the way it is in a lot of places. I could go on but that's the point. Seems like a lot of the problem as far as just folks, is their inability to not [bleep] with the other fellow. If folks would just stay out of each other's business a lot of stuff would solve itself.
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