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Originally Posted by BobinNH
We did, as a group, a fair amount of bear hunting in Maine, bumped into others along the way in NH and Vermont.

The two longest trailing jobs we had were from a 257 Robert with 115 NPT,and a 340 Weatherby with 210 NPT. In neither case was it a problem with the bullets, or the cartridges. In both cases, placement was a bit too far back to be ideal.This was another chapter in the same old lesson that kept repeating itself.


I have seen a pretty fair amount of game killed with magnum cartridges from 30 caliber and "up",and killed them myself. They are capable of producing some very dramatic kills. I have noticed that this occurs only when bullets from them land in the right place.This pretty boring news,but I have found it to be true.

I think it's silly to deliberately use a small cartridge on a large animal to prove a point....I also think it's equally silly to use a big cartridge under the mistaken notion that sheer power will make up for sloppy and indifferent bullet placement. Generally it does't work.



Best post in reply to the op, in my opinion. I took a very large Blackie on Vancouver Island a few years back. Used a 338 Win Mag on that bear. I shot the 26th bear I stalked on that week-long hunt. He was showing signs of being a very old bear. Had a few teeth left. Squared 7', 20" skull.

I waited for that bear to turn broadside and shot him through the shoulders with a 225 grain IB over plenty of RL22. No tracking necessary. I know that 338 was not absolutely necessary. I could have killed that bear with much less gun. But I wanted to use that gun. Difference is, I would never have taken a shot at the South end of a North-bound bear-- even with a gun that 'should' pull such a shot off. I've seen too many of those decisions go terribly wrong. Kinda like it did for the op.


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Here...Virginia bow kill....

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485lbs...live weight, it was weighed before it was gutted...

I believe he was shooting a 100grain broadhead, out of a 65lb bow.

Having a front end loader does come in handy for recovery,,,

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'country,

Bears react with very little impression,to poor placement and will become traveling sons of bitches,at the very instant. In the Corral,the point is moot and in others...THE greatest concern.

My Corral,from yesterday. At least it ain't steep or wearing heavy vegetation.(grin)

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Break bone and you own 'em,hit 4-Wheel Drive and schit gets ugly quick.

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Mojo,

I just might be sweet on a Montucky or two,that wears a .378" bolt face.

Withoutta doubt,I've seen more [bleep] up schit by guys gunning Boomers,than the truly FUN schit. I mean in non-lineal lightyear fashion. It's all about Placement and Boolits...end of story. The only thing funnier than Boomer round "count",would be an hourmeter reading from them couchbound kchunts.

Crunch bone and you're done...hit soft tissue and it's just startin'.

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'slave,

Hopin' for an Energy Chart or sumptin' similar,myself.(grin)

Oh the whole Goat [bleep] train wreck of a mess,is a hoot,replete with the supposed 3-1/2+ tons of 5/8" cable in the bed of the truck,on a spool 'bout the size of a Halibut Reel. I mean..you'd think it'd take a spool wearing an 8" arbor,to be 'bout 36" in diameter and 48" wide to crowd 9200' or so aboard...but all this "fancy" schit is "new" to me.

Not that every Logger in the World,wouldn't love to be able to change roads with a haywire drum stashed in the glove box.(grin)

This schit is all sooooooooo [bleep] funny,that is IMPOSSIBLE to pick the funniest part.

Imagination and Pretend,is forces that shouldn't be slighted in their grandeur and it's always best...when folks is doing their BEST.

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7.5'++ and 22".

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i wouldn't be bragging about a "hunt" like that. taking a 350 yd quartering away shot is foolish in my opinion. and the fact that it took 2 days and at least 2 shots to die is proof. that ain't hunting, its live target shooting. you seem to have judgement issues. stop bragging about being a dumbass too.


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Stick,

You're right..hit'm right, they don't go far, but that ain't new news.

That first bear you posted a pick of might have the biggest noggin I have ever seen on a blackie. The crease in his head looks like someone took a chainsaw to it...WTF..

BTW, hows the Fixed [bleep] chronicles going ?

I see you have one on that rig in the pic..

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Kinda funny a guy in rubber slippers beaching a boat and walking a hundred yards to kill a bear feeding on some lush grass. Boy that's HARDCORE! haha smile Then getting drunk and leaving his rifle in his boat all night in a puddle of salt water and proclaiming how tough the conditions are.... lol smile

Just giving ya chitt Larry. smile Nice critters,rifles,fishing gear and especially nice photography..



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Seafire? Is that you?
Just phoucing with you.
I'm 7 vodkas in.
I'm going for SM level of delusion.


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Originally Posted by wageslave
Seafire? Is that you?
Just phoucing with you.
I'm 7 vodkas in.
I'm going for SM level of delusion.

You better hope that is uber vodka.

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Don't do drugs!!!!








P.S. uber ultra.








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BTW,

Elsewhere e OP claims he misjudged and didn't account for the bears movement (HTF do you NOT take that into account on a long shot). Regardless, if my calls are correct a bear walking at 3 mph perfectly perpendicular would've moved about a quarter of an inch during the bullets TOF. His bear was quartering so even less.

Always amazes me the people who can't do schit, think that schit can't be done. Or it's corollary-people who do schitty things,think every one else does, as well. This was obvious in the defenders of the OP's horrendous shot and story.


It ain't what you don't know that makes you an idiot...it's what you know for certain, that just ain't so...

Most people don't want to believe the truth~they want the truth to be what they believe.

Stupidity has no average...
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Ok.
I admit it.
I phouced up on the Uber bruin.
Someone else bagged it for me. But
How about them Raiders?
Super Bowl bitches.


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'country,

Been floggin' on Fixed [bleep] daily,for every R&R...since procurement. Haven't been able to shake a zero loose,nor make one not repeat and them is good thangs in my book. 5000rds+ of centerfire all told.

No Fixed [bleep] pictured and I'm thinkin' you's got Gold Dust cornfuzed with Goose Poop. Gold Dust is a 100% OEM Montucky,wearing a 6x42 and of course flings 162's. Goose Poop was a 8mm Whizzum when it left the Factory and was rebarreled wearing a PN S/S S/M 1-9" of like length/contour. It wears a 6x Fixed [bleep] and is quickly becoming Famous,rekindling Montucky 7 Whizzum Lust and selling the schit outta Fixed [bleep] to boot.

Gold Dust was my 1st Montucky 7 Whizzum(I've got 3 currently) and Sister swiped it,at a tender age. She's slammed 43" of Booner Skull and 15' of squared hide with it,in two pokes.

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I reckon she'll be Sporting it again,here directly and I just might gun 'Poop.

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Only have 7 Fixed [bleep] currently and reckon I'll score a couple/few more,if only in the interest of R&D.

Film at 11:00.(grin)










Shag,

I do very much enjoy The Paper Hat Brigade and their Day Dreaming Do Nothing Dumbfhukkery,especially when they get to flexin' their Imagination and Pretend. Funny how when it's all said an done,there's been a whole [bleep] of a lot more said...than done. Not that I'd wish to slight anyone their Imagination or Pretend. Laffin'!

In fairness,I ain't much fun to try and keep pace with.


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Just sayin'.

Hint.

Laffin'!










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Mojo,

It ain't ever been tough to cypher who shoots more than a smidge.(grin)

Though in fairness,Imagination and Pretend are all that many folks got.

Bless their hearts.

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Originally Posted by MojoHand
Boxer,

I've noted, and often mentioned to others, that with all the rifles/chamberings you have/had I most often see your .223 Montucky in tow.

I seem to recall something about 'you can't beat light done right' and 'boolits matter more than headstamps'. Just can't recall where I heard that.... wink

The irony is that it's proved by all the posts of kills made with 'inadequate' calipers/chamberings AND by the stories of schitty results with those who use 'enough gun'!

Guess I'll stick with my itty bitty inadequate .223 and un-suxed .308 with Scenars...

P.S. What kind of winch you got in your Tacoma??? laugh


Originally Posted by MojoHand
If I remember right, somewhere back in the archives one can find pics/info of Dober slaying a blackie with a .22-250. Clearly faked. Not on THAT hunt!


Mojo,

I've also noticed something here at the 'Fire... those that shoot the most, hunt the most, and kill the most don't shoot uber-anything. Funny because most every other forum would lead the casual observer to believe that an uber-something is needed to kill a prairie chicken.

I'm impressed that many here value shooting skill (and the practice needed to get there) along with time in the woods more than energy calcs or uber-chamberings. Shooting in volume, reloading, scouting, and hunting take time, a lot of time. Dwelling on foot-lbs, magnum cases, etc. seems more like a crutch for those that don't do the above.

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You either use an uber 12.5 guage in 3.5" or risk death.
Chickens can kill.
Don't even get me started on tracking one.


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What sort of back-up is needed for vicious chickens? Uber-handgun?

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I whack them from a distance with my UBER- COCK.
But then, I am awesome.



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Ever.


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Tell me more about this 12.5 gauge.

Sometimes I use all 12 of the gauges in my 12 gauge and the extra half might be nice. Thanks.


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Originally Posted by wageslave
I whack them from a distance with my UBER- COCK.
But then, I am awesome.



P.S. I don't wear sleeves.




Ever.


Well, that's better than Safarimoron. He didn't kill anything - he wounded one and then called in a guide/friend to clean up his mess.


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Neck up.
Ream.
Over-penetrate.
Then UBER AI, mutherphoucer.


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If my schit don't work, I make schit up.
Then I post it all over the Internet.






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