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You guys are a lot of help :-)


What are the specs on the rifle? Heavy, light, DBM, stock?


Lilja Sendero contour, DBM and I am not sure what stock I am going with yet.


For something like that go 24" or longer. It sounds like you're building one more for use on the range than hunting with those specs.

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22, maybe 21.


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Originally Posted by Crow hunter
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You guys are a lot of help :-)


What are the specs on the rifle? Heavy, light, DBM, stock?


Lilja Sendero contour, DBM and I am not sure what stock I am going with yet.


For something like that go 24" or longer. It sounds like you're building one more for use on the range than hunting with those specs.


I will use it for both. Most of my hunting is done from a stand or or short spot and stalks so weight is not a factor. I carried a 12lb rifle all over Colorado last year with no problems. When you spend 2 years carrying a 30lb pack and ar-15 all over the montains a 12lb rifle is a pleasure.


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I have had more than a few in .260 , for normal hunting range pick what you like , but the OP said out to a 1000yds I'd go 26 or longer , at that distance velocity helps. At theis time I have 2 with 26" and one with 22" that 4 " makes a noticable difference with my loadings

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I have them with 22 inch (factory Rugers), a 26 inch ( Rem VLS Factory).... and a 24 inch on a Model 70 SA ( Pac Nor)... the 26 inch will give me approximately 100 fps more MV out of its usual load of 43.5 grs of IMR 4064 and the 24 inch gives me a predictable 50 fps...

In the field and the real world, it really boils down to what is comfortable for you to carry, and what type of range you are hunting...

My longer barrels are for more open hunting and if I am woods range hunting, then the Rugers get grabbed out of the gunsafe...

the 22 inch has a sporter barrel, the 24 a heavy magnum contour and the 26 inch barrel has a varmint contour...

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23" is just about right!

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Get the barrel at 24", get your stock and bolt the gun together, then trim it for balance if necessary.

Balance is what counts, not length.

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Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
Get the barrel at 24", get your stock and bolt the gun together, then trim it for balance if necessary.

Balance is what counts, not length.


I agree...balance is key.

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I currently have several in 22"-24" lengths. The 22" is my favorite for all-around use, including 1000+yards. I give up some wind by running 123 scenars, but it's worth it for the handiness of the package. I'm getting 2975fps so the numbers are still damn good. 130s run 2850-2900 with the 22".

In a 24" I'll switch over to Berger 140 Hybrids. Pushing those at 2800-2850 gives much better numbers in the wind.


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Kyle,
Mind sharing your 123 load? I just picked some up to try in my 260.
Thanks!


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H4350 from 46.1-47.0, depending on the lot. That's over book, so work up. Book is generally only 58k-59k, though FWIW. Never had pressure issues, just adjusting powder to keep velocity constant (My most recent lot was 50fps faster with the 130s so I dropped back a bit all around). With the 123 I'm running WW708 brass, 210m & jumping .010".

45.0-45.3 works well with the 130gr bullets, btw.


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I have a 22" carbon wrapped lightweight gun that runs 130 nab's at 2900. It's great for carrying and shoots well. If your going heavier anyways a 24" is fine but only expect to pick up about 40 fps on average.

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Kid's Mod 7 was 24, out of balance, I sawed it off 2", much better now-Muddy

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I just had one built with a 20� #2 Brux on a ruger SS hawkeye set in a Mcmillan stock. Just waiting on the NECG sights to finish it off. I happen to think the tiny velocity loss with a 20� barrel will be more than offset by the rifle�s handy factor.

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My personal opinion is the longer the better if you are planning on shooting paper at 1,000 yds.Since you will be stand hunting mostly the added weight in the barrel should not be a big factor.

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Long barrels only


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Originally Posted by ldholton
I have had more than a few in .260 , for normal hunting range pick what you like , but the OP said out to a 1000yds I'd go 26 or longer , at that distance velocity helps. At theis time I have 2 with 26" and one with 22" that 4 " makes a noticable difference with my loadings

I have an open prairie rifle that is 30", the extra 4" over a 26" barrel with Reloder 17 is even more impressive.... grin

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Originally Posted by wyoming260
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I have had more than a few in .260 , for normal hunting range pick what you like , but the OP said out to a 1000yds I'd go 26 or longer , at that distance velocity helps. At theis time I have 2 with 26" and one with 22" that 4 " makes a noticable difference with my loadings

I have an open prairie rifle that is 30", the extra 4" over a 26" barrel with Reloder 17 is even more impressive.... grin
funny I'm running 17 myself

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Figure 25fps per inch from 23" on .... Pick your poison.

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Originally Posted by ldholton
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I have had more than a few in .260 , for normal hunting range pick what you like , but the OP said out to a 1000yds I'd go 26 or longer , at that distance velocity helps. At theis time I have 2 with 26" and one with 22" that 4 " makes a noticable difference with my loadings

I have an open prairie rifle that is 30", the extra 4" over a 26" barrel with Reloder 17 is even more impressive.... grin
funny I'm running 17 myself
What kind of general velocities are you getting from the 26" barrels. I would consider that length in the future, but I am spoiled with the one I have.


P.S. I am shooting 130 gr bergers and I think I am gonna stick with them unless some one comes up with a super HIGH BC bullet. lIKE A 150 GR HUNTING HYBRID OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. The 130 gr. jlks i have show so amazing promise also.

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