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Good morning, Bob. No, not yet. This one fell to my Featherweight. I have to get the Zastava out on the range, as well as mount a scope on a Montana Rifle Company ASR and get it on the range as well. I expect that after Easter things will slow down a bit and I'll be able to spend a day or two mounting scopes, sighting in, etc.

And thanks. That little boar weighed about 70 pounds or so. My brother-in-law took these two at another feeder about 1/2 mile to the south of me. When I drove down there to pick him up, there were two more trying to push these out of the way to get to the corn below them. They were so preoccupied with the corn, they didn't even see me drive up so I just honked the horn to move them on. Three was enough to clean.

Great topic. I worked with my son's rifle a bunch last year shooting RL17 and 140AB's. Velocity was excellent and accuracy was very good as well. I liked it so much I sorta started looking for one of my own. I ran some QL numbers and was very impressed with RL17 but W760/H414 looked just as good.

Cartridge : 7 x 57 mm Mauser (SAAMI)
Bullet : .284, 140, Nosler AccuBond 59992
Useable Case Capaci: 52.245 grain H2O = 3.392 cm�
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.071 inch = 78.00 mm
Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-17

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 81 40.80 2393 1779 31210 9266 93.8 1.411
-18.0 83 41.82 2454 1872 33354 9544 95.0 1.372
-16.0 85 42.84 2516 1967 35657 9807 96.1 1.334
-14.0 87 43.86 2577 2065 38123 10052 97.0 1.295
-12.0 89 44.88 2638 2164 40752 10277 97.9 1.254
-10.0 91 45.90 2700 2266 43604 10483 98.6 1.215
-08.0 93 46.92 2761 2369 46652 10666 99.1 1.177
-06.0 95 47.94 2822 2475 49929 10826 99.5 1.141
-04.0 97 48.96 2882 2582 53455 10962 99.8 1.106
-02.0 99 49.98 2942 2690 57256 11072 100.0 1.072 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 101 51.00 3001 2800 61355 11158 100.0 1.040 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 103 52.02 3060 2911 65784 11237 100.0 1.008 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 105 53.04 3118 3023 70575 11311 100.0 0.978 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 107 54.06 3176 3136 75768 11381 100.0 0.948 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 109 55.08 3234 3251 81399 11447 100.0 0.920 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 111 56.10 3291 3367 87530 11509 100.0 0.893 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by � 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 101 51.00 3122 3030 75042 10685 100.0 0.962 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 101 51.00 2818 2468 49567 11347 97.1 1.142

I ended up right around 2940 with the 140AB.







I am sure the 7-08 is just as good, but man, it's hard to not really like the 7x57 when it is loaded to modern specs in a good rifle. Plus, Norma brass has been very good to me. Keep to sizing it tight and case stretch isn't too bad at at all.

It depends on what you value most, so-called panache, class, tea, crumpets and ruffly blouses or utilitarian functionality with way less guesswork, as can be said for the 7mm-08 or .280, I'll pick functionality in this case.

Also, the 7mm-08, .280 and their parent cases were designed by Americans for Americans, the 7x57 was not.

You probably don't lift your pinky whilst sipping tea, do you?

Two 21" 700s I chopped, both shot 2900-2960 w/Varget and 140s, nice expansion/retention - the AB is a fave of mine.

In a 7x57, not that its needed, but if a throat is generous, I would bump up to 150-154's - feel that would be a great weight for the Rigby, good speeds, recoil ok, etc. Figure they should easily hit 2700-2750.

I will openly admit I'm not that refined, I don't like tea, I drink coffee out of a cup with no handle and a sealed top so I can't spill it, and come to think of it, I don't sip anything I drink.

So I guess a tweed shooting jacket is out of the question�..

Yep, in the summer I don't even wear a jacket.

The rest of the year my shooting jacket is whatever jacket I'm wearing while shooting.

I don't lift my pinky while drinking tea,I lift my middle finger.

Everybody has their own style, I lift my right leg when I pee.

Yup.

Ain't nothing like kicking a cage on a Friday afternoon.

I'm sitting at camp debating whether to head out to a stand for a bit or hang out for drinks and steak. Ingwe, which do you think has more panache? Oh, and I might raise my pinky when I have a nip...but probably not.

Drink in the stand.

Win/win.



Travis

Hmm...never thought of that.

[quote=SAUMHUNTER79

Also, the 7mm-08, .280 and their parent cases were designed by Americans for Americans, the 7x57 was not. [/quote]

Yeah, but I generally shoot it in an American gun. Doesn't that count for something?

Got to the stand and use your trigger finger.

Here you go Roundoak (Wayne) shot it this morning.


And how far out the 160 gr NP is seated in the CZ.

Yeah, but I generally shoot it in an American gun. Doesn't that count for something? [/quote]I suppose I could give you a point or 2 for that.

I'll take it!!

Mine is an American gun too! And chambered in a German cartridge! A good match�..



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