Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire A Bear story, or "The proper way to pack out a big (DEAD)black bear!" PIC HEAVY,

When he goes off about how only an "ubermagnum" would be capable of the feat, or how a 3/4 pickup had what would total about 17k tons of cable in the bed, or how the entire event was the equivalent of a hunt never to be equaled in the ages, then he brings it on himself. Add in the "problematic" shot placement that would negate the touted "quartering away", the reliance on others to actually kill the bear and then do the work, and then the multiplicitous posting of the same event in multiple forums - each attempting to one up the last and all building upon the flaws of the others, the self-induced misery compounds.

It would also appear that he has developed somewhat of a reputation. That never helps, but I can't speak to that (as I wasn't privy to the events or the incidents).

I do not agree with his take on armament, but you guys seem to forget that he is younger than JJ, but in such poor health that he needed the help to recover the animal and he sought the help needed. He also told the exactly as it happened and sugar coated none of it. You guys are way to self righteous.

5/8" cable weighs .72 pounds per foot therefore total weight of the cable is no where near 17 tons.

I have not seen a SINGLE post my Take A Knee that looked or sounded like him being a blowhard or self appointed expert.

Some may be self-righteous, but I'm certainly not intending to be so at all.

The bold part is the part that I, and perhaps others, disagree with. The telling exactly as is happens doesn't align with the obvious difference between claimed shot angle and actual shot impact/result. Telling it exactly as it happened doesn't get into the blowhard diatribe about how only an "ubermagnum" could have killed that bear or been used to make that shot, when in fact the bear was killed the next day with a .44 magnum handgun and the shot taken could have been made with a myriad of weapons. Telling it exactly as it happened doesn't involve the obvious and ridiculous claim as to the capabilities of the truck used to drag the carcass out of the gulley.

Safariman does have medical and physical difficulties that limit his activities. That has little to do with the above, and at least to me nothing to do with my take on his story.

Hey, I'm glad he got out bear hunting and glad he got a bear. I'm also glad that he has friends willing to pitch in and help him out. All of that is great. How he regales it and how he presents that information, himself, and the actual hunt, though, leaves quite a bit to be desired.

Obviously, YMMV.

That depends upon the cable involved, but even going with your numbers, at 2 miles of cable the cable alone would weigh over 7500 lbs, not counting the winch system, motor, etc. Add all of that in, and you're easily pushing 4 tons.

It would appear that you have a problem with my exaggeration, but not any his.

Like I posted he does write like it is an advertisement. You weren't even close with the weight of the cable, so should we go after you? How do you know that the claims of the winch truth are/were ridiculous? Do you know the owner of the winch truck, have you seen it personally?

Yep.
Looks like he's more upset with your cable weight guess than his hobby being trashed as presented....on a public form. Go figure.

Burns,

Send me one of those things to try out please.





Travis

I did not single you out individually my post are aimed at all who continue to bash relentlessly. I did not post until today, I got tired of reading the constant insults and innuendos. I think that safari man is full of it if thinks that a 260 would not have produced the same results with the same shot placement based on my own experience. Everyone has an opinion although some are more valid than others. I would not have told the story as he did, but that is just me. I am not going to thrash his hunt and story because it is not the way I would have seen it.
That is the difference, I am sure that I will not change you or anyone else for that matter.

Yep.
Looks like he's more upset with your cable weight guess than his hobby being trashed as presented....on a public form. Go figure.

Sure thing, since Burns and myself are one and the same I've been informed. What's your address?

Curious as to why my posts were the ones quoted then.

It seems we agree that he was full of it on whether the results could have been had with something other than an "ubermagnum", and we agree on whether the story should have been told as it was.

I'm neither bashing his hunt, nor his story. I'm simply disagreeing with some of his premises and statements that are obviously false. He got the bear; great.

Oh, and no, your posts nor mine will change anyone here at all.

You were simply the last post that I saw that represented the theme. The thread needs to die.