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I am sorry that there was an initial problem and that you are slightly inconvenienced, however, I do think Neil handled this correctly and quite honestly I think you owe him & Camera Land an apology for publically blasting him and Camera Land for attempting to assist you in the most efficient manner. Well, in case you forgot, here is Doug's initial response to ringworm's problem. Ringworm was "slightly inconvinienced" and Camera Land was owed "an apology." That doesn't sound like a stellar customer service response to me. If I sold anyone on the 24 Hour Campfire a $5, a $25 or a $50 item, claimed I was unaware of the damage and recommend they take up the matter with the manufacturer I'll bet there would be a negative reaction. The fact that it was a $100 item is irrelevant. For some it would take over 10 hours of work to buy such an item. For others it could take 30 minutes or less just to put things into perspective. For those pompous ones who thought ringworm should just let things slide since the scope was only worth $100, consider how you would feel if you were defrauded on an item that took you 2 or 5 or 10 hours to work for.It is obvious that others have been "inconvinienced" by Camera Land besides ringworm but they didn't bother to initially let us know about it. How so many are ready to defend such tactics just because they happened to come out unscathed after dealings with Camera Land is a bit hard for me to fathom. If Doug had apologized to begin with rather than make excuses for Neil under the pretense of doing things the "most efficient" way possible, this thread probably would have died long ago. It's not stellar customer service to screw a customer once in a while; it's below average customer service. I hope ya'll who love Camera Land have a long and happy relationship with them. I dont understand how everyone things Ringworm would be defrauded. He is going to leverage his 2-5 hous of work into a product that would have taken him 7-10 hours of work to purchase. It is the most efficient solution. At this point, he has not be defrauded of a thing. If a call to Vortex was found to be unproductive, Cameraland would have stepped up, I have no doubt. This thread is pointless and petty.
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.....If a call to Vortex was found to be unproductive, Cameraland would have stepped up, I have no doubt. This thread is pointless and petty. Some of us have gone that route. It didn't work out so well.
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Yeah, yeah, you southerners are perfect and all us northerners are the devil.
I've heard your song and dance routine before. Not at all sir, and I am sorry if I painted the picture with such a broad brush. I have met many kind and gracious northerners, of which you are likely one. It's just that I've always noticed northerners, especially in large cities, to be more direct and abrupt in their speech. I don't think they mean it as an insult, though it can be taken that way when you aren't accustomed to it.
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Haven't read the whole thread but all I can say is wow..
Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.
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Avoid this shiit�.support your local gun shops. Go where they know your name when you walk through the door, before they are put out of business by this crap. I agree with this statement, but interestingly enough, it was my local gunshop that got me to Cameraland. I walked in to my local store with $800 cash in my pocket to buy two Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40. I stood there at the counter looking at them for a long time. All the help was busy talking to some kid who wanted to look at every knife in the counter. They were telling stories of their favorite knives etc. After about 20 minutes, I left the counter and went home and posted about that event here on the campfire. Doug contacted me and sold me a higher level, silver in color Zeiss for my $400 and I am better off for it. I bought another Zeiss from a gentlemen here on the campfire for a better price as well. Problem solved.
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Trust me, most of us northerners who live in the country talk just as slow and polite as you southern boys who live in rural areas.
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I live not too far from hundreds of Northerners. Very quiet folk. ![[Linked Image]](http://images.travelpod.com/tw_slides/ta00/b76/012/2-natchez-national-cemetery-mississippi.jpg)
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Haven't read the whole thread but all I can say is wow.. It could be a TV series, "How the Worm Turns".
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I live not too far from hundreds of Northerners. Very quiet folk. Poor taste....
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Like most shooters here....I too buy online. Probably more used items than new .
Most of my online purchases would be from Armslist.
I like to spend money and the new items I buy would be purchased from gun shops. It is worth a lot to me to not have to go through the internet. It all sounds so fuucking good until the deal goes south.
When I pull my dough outta my pocket it feels good and I mostly drive a damn hard bargain. I don't ever feel the need for instant gratification and I can walk away.
I have several new high end scopes put away that I came across in gun shops all over the country and bought for the hell of it whenever I need them.
Just my personal practice.
I spend too much time online anyway. It Fuucks up my charming atitude.
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I'd buy again and again from cameraland, their customer service history and prices stand on their own merit despite what the OP has to say.
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I live not too far from hundreds of Northerners. Very quiet folk. Poor taste.... ..very
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Trust me, most of us northerners who live in the country talk just as slow and polite as you southern boys who live in rural areas. I can vouch for that. Those backwoods boys from Pennsyltucky are no different than the southern fellas in their patience, politeness, and friendliness. Many parts of Pennsyltucky are riddled with cowpaths for roads, not interstates and skycrapers. No offense meant to any, but I've spent a good amount of time in the north and not everyone is a city slicker. Jason
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Doug,
I've bought from you in the past and will continue to do so in the future. Ringworm is a whiney baby.
I worked in retail for a while and can vouch for the fact that the customer is not always right. Customers can be giant pain in the butts at times and can make some of the most unreasonable demands.
If it were me, I wouldn't be upset if Ringworm was pissed. At least that way, I'd never have to pick up the phone and listen to his whining.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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They should have stayed at home.
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I've had quite a number of W PA guys come hunting with me over the years. The vast, vast majority are good, solid guys. A couple of them have spoken for every mule deer tag we get for the next 5 years. I guess they like our company as well as we like theirs.
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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I shared a house in college with a girl from PA(Harrisburg). She was mellow and down to earth. Her dad actually owned the house, he came to visit once, nice guy.
I know another person from PA, he is cooler than most people from Montana....grin
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If I went to Wyoming for the first time and met Larry Root, should I think all people from Wy are douchebags..............?
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I pray for Wyoming's sake that he's not a native.
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Native? He's not a human being.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
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