Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Anyone hear this on FoxPhoenix last night?

Newscaster was talking about Ted Cruz, and said "He was born in Canada, and is therefore ineligible to become President of the US"

I about fell out of my chair.

(I had 3 Budweisers by that time, in the interest of full disclosure)

Sycamore

Well Syc, if that bothered you so much - how far do you fall when somobody reminds you that your hero zero was born in Kenya and is ineligible for the office?

I have heard that, but it seems not to many are concerned. It will be fun to call the liberals "birthers".

I am convinced you are not as dumb as you type here, but I know reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

Sycamore

But have you heard it on Fox, from an announcer?

That is what I had not heard.

Sycamore

Haven't heard anybody say that officially...

McCain was granted a waiver by congress in 2008 when he ran for Pres, he was born in Panama...

Precedence is set...

His place of birth won't prevent him from becoming President.

He's likely way too conservative to garner the support of the GOP.

"Natural born citizen" means someone who is a citizen by right of birth, as opposed to someone who becomes a citizen through a legal process.

IIRC, Ted was born in Canada, to parents who are US citizens. That would make him a natural born US citizen, and therefore eligible.

Denton is correct as usual.


http://www.wisegeek.org/in-the-united-states-what-is-a-natural-born-citizen.htm

A natural born citizen or natural citizen is someone who is considered a United States citizen from birth. Unlike naturalized citizens, these people do not need to apply for any of the rights of citizenship. They are granted the right to vote at 18, along with all of the other rights and responsibilities associated with citizenship in the United States. In addition, they are permitted to run for the positions of president and vice president, while naturalized citizens are excluded from these roles in American government by law.

There are two different ways in which a natural born citizen can be created. By American law, all people born on American soil are considered citizens. In addition, people who are born overseas to American parents are also classified this way.

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People who are born on American soil are said to have the right of jus soli, and this right is protected in the 14th Amendment to the United States constitution, which specifically states that �all persons born in the United States ... are citizens of the United States.� Jus soli has become a topic of hot discussion in some areas of the United States, because this right is also extended to children born of foreign parents, whether or not they are in the country legally. In the case of children born to illegal immigrants, some people use the derogatory term �anchor baby� to describe a child who is born in the US, under the mistaken belief that illegal immigrants will not be deported if their children are considered American citizens.

For children born abroad, the principle that applies is jus sanguinis, or �rule of the blood,� and the rules can get a bit tricky. If a child is born to two parents who are both American citizens, the case is usually clear, and the parents need only apply for a United States passport on the child's behalf to ensure that his or her citizenship is formally recognized. If only one parent is an American citizen, however, jus sanguinis may or may not apply, and the case must be considered before the child is classified as a natural born citizen.

In situations where only one parent is a United States citizen, he or she must have lived in the United States for at least five years at some point before the child's birth as a full American citizen, and at least two of these five years must have occurred after the parent's 14th birthday. In the case of a child born to an American mother, the child is usually considered a citizen, whether or not the mother is married. If an American father is involved in a relationship with a foreign woman and the couple is not married, however, the father may need to fight for the child's right to citizenship.

I think his mother was born in the US, his Dad was still a Cuban. I don't know if the mom ever took Canadian citizenship.

That's not the interesting part to me, I was shocked to hear a Fox employee say it as just part of the news.

Sycamore

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/poli...under-the-countrys-immigration-rules.ece



By TODD J. GILLMAN Washington Bureau tgillmandallasnews.com
Published: 18 August 2013 11:04 PM
Updated: 19 August 2013 03:51 PM
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WASHINGTON � Born in Canada to an American mother, Ted Cruz became an instant U.S. citizen. But under Canadian law, he also became a citizen of that country the moment he was born.
Unless the Texas Republican senator formally renounces that citizenship, he will remain a citizen of both countries, legal experts say.
That means he could assert the right to vote in Canada or even run for Parliament. On a lunch break from the U.S. Senate, he could head to the nearby embassy � the one flying a bright red maple leaf flag � pull out his Calgary, Alberta, birth certificate and obtain a passport.
�He�s a Canadian,� said Toronto lawyer Stephen Green, past chairman of the Canadian Bar Association�s Citizenship and Immigration Section.
The circumstances of Cruz�s birth have fueled a simmering debate over his eligibility to run for president. Knowingly or not, dual citizenship is an apparent if inconvenient truth for the tea party firebrand, who shows every sign he�s angling for the White House.
�Senator Cruz became a U.S. citizen at birth, and he never had to go through a naturalization process after birth to become a U.S. citizen,� said spokeswoman Catherine Frazier. �To our knowledge, he never had Canadian citizenship.�
The U.S. Constitution allows only a �natural born� American citizen to serve as president. Most legal scholars who have studied the question agree that includes an American born overseas to an American parent, such as Cruz.
The Constitution says nothing about would-be presidents born with dual citizenship.
Detractors have derided Cruz as �Canadian Ted,� saying he can�t run for president because he wasn�t born on U.S. soil.
Cruz, a Harvard-trained lawyer and former clerk for the U.S. chief justice, disagrees. He reasserted last week that being an American by birth makes him eligible.

You don't have to pass an IQ test to be a reporter.

So far, no one else heard this on FoxPhoenix?

I'm not questioning the accuracy, I thought it was old news and settled long ago.

I was curious about hearing it on Fox. (late on the 9 o'clock broadcast)

Sycamore

Syc, you don't know enough to be convinced of anything about me, and for certain you know nothing about my reading comprehension. One thing is for sure - you don't seem to be able to read between the lines. Probably should not watch Fox news if it shocks/bothers you that much.

I stand by my original statement.



Sycamore

Your hole card has a big hole in it, Syc.

Shows that you have worlds less than average ability to read strangers' character at a substantial distance.

And your "crystal ball" must be a shaving mirror.

another remedial reader?

What does character have to do with reading comprehension?

I think I read sign OK on this web site, especially over time. And I have a good memory.

I do get folks with similar screen-names a little confused, esp the less frequent posters.

Unique screen names , and/or frequent posters, not so much.

Intentional smoke screens and blatant emotional appeals are lost on me, I freely admit.

Sycamore

Cruz was born in Canada, and I for one think the founding fathers would say he is not eligible to be president.

IIRC, the Panama Canal Zone (1903�1979) was United States sod when McCain was born there in 1936.