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Hey all you AR pros, I have an older Armalite AR-10T and want to purchase a new 16/18" barreled AR in 308, are there any better makers or newer upgraded mods being built today?
Although I've never had any trouble outta my old rifle [circa 2002] just looking for a more handy setup.
Thanks in advance, Gunner
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If you are going to replace the upper, just remember that the Armalite upper is cut different than the DPMS upper.
We are waiting on somebody here to buy one of the new DPMS Gen 2 and wring the snot out of it. Initial reports are good.
DPMS, RRA, CMMG are good "middle of the road" rifles, Noveske/POF/etc are upper price tier, really depends on what you want to do with a 16-18 inch barrel.
A couple of us have MP-10s, they are holding 1-2 inches for accuracy, and OK, nothing stellar. One RRA on here that is a tack driver from the pictures, and I'm sure there are others.
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Won't a 16"-18" .308 be super noisy?
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Yeah DF, if they go BOOM I like em. Gunner
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If you are going to replace the upper, just remember that the Armalite upper is cut different than the DPMS upper.
We are waiting on somebody here to buy one of the new DPMS Gen 2 and wring the snot out of it. Initial reports are good.
DPMS, RRA, CMMG are good "middle of the road" rifles, Noveske/POF/etc are upper price tier, really depends on what you want to do with a 16-18 inch barrel.
A couple of us have MP-10s, they are holding 1-2 inches for accuracy, and OK, nothing stellar. One RRA on here that is a tack driver from the pictures, and I'm sure there are others.
Thanks AH, no upper install, just loking for a complete rifle, accuracy is only a mid-level concern, function will be paramount as this rifle will be mainly a spare for varmint ridding. Gunner
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Really liking the looks of the Armalite A10A4CBFX so far.
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Gunner, you declaring war on hogs..??
I've seen hog hunters using suppressors to cut down the racket and not spook hogs as bad.
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No, no cans or bacon, jus two leggers.
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Hope to be able to use the same load I do in my other Armalite AR-10, it runs the 130 gr TTSX's to 3000 fps in it's 20" barrel.
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I get the picture.
Just sounded like a porker set up. Didn't know if you Okies were into hogs as bad as those Texicans...
Wouldn't a .223 be lighter and handier for two legged varmints..?
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Yes, but barrier/thump champ it aint.
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OK.
Guess that explains the TTSX's.
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Jerry, my AR10 carbine is likewise about 10 years old. It came with a 16" barrel and brake, and was fair to middling accurate. The muzzle blast was ugly, so I bought a 18" Rainier Arms Ultramatch barrel, and added a Vortex brake. So far It seems to be about a 1.5 MOA rifle, but I have more tuning to do on it. Here's a link to the barrel: https://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=2236If you want to buy a complete rifle, I'd look at S&W's 7.62 rifle, as they come with 18" barrels. There may be other folks who have them. I'd acquire some extra ejector springs for whichever -10 variant you buy; so far that's been the only reliability issue I have seen with mine.
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I like your doorknob display rack...
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The new Windham Weaponry SRC 308 is perking my interest. At 7.5lbs is seems like it could be a nice lightweight option compared to the AR10's of old.
The other option I like is the new S&W M&P10 at 7.75lbs with the 18" barrel.
I need to do a little more research but one of these will be coming home with me soon.
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Thanks for the tips Patrick, I have considered the Vortex and Breacher flash hiders for my new set-up.
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AH64 and I have MP10's. The best I can wring out of mine in a 5 shot group is an occasional 1 MOA group. It is on average like he indicated a 1.5-2MOA gun. The good is that "it works" every time with reloads, factory, some surplus junk ammo I had laying around of unknown origin. The barrel is about 21 inches long when you count the 3 inch long flash suppressor. It does not foul much due to their 5R rifling, the melonite coating inside and out make it corrosion resistant,its mid-length gas, takes normal AR15 handgrip, stock, trigger, the balance is not bad and its not a beast regards weight. Next up I am going to try some Federal 168 grain Match in it to see if I can get a few SMOA groups. The DPMS G2 looks good as well, and you could have your 16 inch Ear-gone-ringing blasting barrel.
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Sounds good Jimmy, [MP10's?] you talkin HK's? A couple Buds of mine have MP5's, little 9 and 10mm machine pistols.
They also have 308's in HK 91 and PSG1's.
Thanks for the info, Gunner
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