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If you **let** a museum or university see it, you'd better accompany it the whole time. Or you may not get it back.
So-called preservation societies and academia are the biggest theives and plunderes of artifacts. Because they have been known to confiscate, 'misplace' or flat out fail to return pieces to the persons who rescue these finds.
Just FYI
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A better pic showing the cross section of that base of that point would be most helpful. Would like see all the clear detail you can on the side notches of that point.
Something for scale too, like a dime would be a must.
Focus less on vertabrae and more on point please if possible.
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Probably transported there (washed down) from a higher elevation or further upsteam. No doubt there was an ancient funnel or ambush point where an indian would have lobbed that point from an atl atl or chucked spear.
If they used one of those, would that make it a "fling-flop"? 
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Nowadays them injuns just use a rope, jonboat and evinrude motor- catch a moose swimmin the lake, it's on sucka
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Whatever it is, it was bang-flopped! Er...or maybe "twang-flopped". You sir just invented a new phrase. Yep,,,, someone needs to alert Wickopedia ASAP.
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That is very cool!
What a neat find.
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Very cool! That's a find of a lifetime. Does the bone appear to be fossilized or relatively fresh? Ed its bone not stone.....so its old but not really ancient will work on better photos this afternoon....unfortunately dont have a true macro lens for my camera but its able to give me a hell of alot of control so ill look in the book and mess with the settings and see how good i can do at isolating the focus to the point
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That's one heck of a find. I have no idea what the age of it would be? How long did the local Indians continue to use flint for arrow heads? Perhaps as late as the 1500's? Much later, at least early 1800's. This was in NW Washington. A few ships were putting into Puget sound around 1800 but it was likely quite a few years later before iron arrow heads were generally available. The point is almost vertical like it was shot from a tree or something. Possibly the elk was already down and it was a kill shot.
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Can you put some objects in the pictures to give a reference for size. This is beyond cool.
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In looking a little closer, I made an error. That is a lumbar vertebrae and there is no facet joint showing...
What I wonder about is the flattening on the dorsal process???
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It looks like part of a hip to me
There seems to be a lot of bone to just be a single vertabra
It's an awsome find though It looks like part of a hip to me Are you REALLY as stupid as your posts? GTC
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It looks like part of a hip to me
There seems to be a lot of bone to just be a single vertabra
It's an awsome find though This is an outdoorsman? No,.....loud mouthed tenderfoot. GTC
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In looking a little closer, I made an error. That is a lumbar vertebrae and there is no facet joint showing...
What I wonder about is the flattening on the dorsal process??? Might that be a sign of age, starvation, sickness, injury? Leaching off its own nutrients. May be why it was chosen to be culled from the herd. Slow, infirm. Size.
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It sure looks like the bison vertebra I found, just not as tall. It also has that flattening.
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Likely just an example of broadhead testing done some years ago by an Indian Outdoor Cave writer.
Now, people shoot water jugs with bullets, but buffalo spine was likely the favored medium back in the day for Outdoor writers...
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Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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That's what I'm saying...
I don't know anything about that area, but it looks an awful lot like this bison vertabra I've got here...
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