|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 32,044
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 32,044 |
Is the 26 Nosler round that much better than the 264 Win Mag or the 6.5 STW?
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178 Likes: 5
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178 Likes: 5 |
Is the 26 Nosler round that much better than the 264 Win Mag or the 6.5 STW? Now, I guess that depends on who you ask... DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 4,020
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 4,020 |
Bea it has some nice features like no belt, fits in a standard LA 3.450 and good quality brass is available.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 32,044
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 32,044 |
Maybe i will barrel my LH Montana from 264 WM to the 26 Nosler. I already have the barrel blank, Hart SS Number 3, 1&8 twist, 28 inch's long, all i need is the reamer , brass, and dies.
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178 Likes: 5
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178 Likes: 5 |
Smiths I've used don't have the reamer.
Who has the 26 Nosler reamer?
DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 32,044
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 32,044 |
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 965
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 965 |
If I was going to rebarrel a Kimber Montana , which model would be best?
Last edited by ndhunterman; 06/12/14.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178 Likes: 5
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178 Likes: 5 |
It would have to be std. length magnum action.
The fatter 26 Nosler round may or may not work well with a std. mag. setup. I don't know how one would alter a Kimber box mag. With the M-70, windows are cut in the box to allow the fatter rounds more room under the rails.
DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 965
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 965 |
So an 8400 magnum (300,7mm or 338) correct?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 69,337 Likes: 19
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 69,337 Likes: 19 |
So an 8400 magnum (300,7mm or 338) correct? No, it's based on the Remington Ultra Mag Case. I doubt there will be enough room in your standard Magnum mag box. Ultra Mag Case is much fatter or wider.
Last edited by chlinstructor; 06/12/14.
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178 Likes: 5
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178 Likes: 5 |
[quote=ndhunterman]So an 8400 magnum (300,7mm or 338) correct? Right action length, just not set up for a wide body, fat case, like the WSM (short action) or a RUM (mag length action). You'll need a wide body set up in a std. length, magnum bolt face action. DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178 Likes: 5
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178 Likes: 5 |
Here is a photo of a M-70 .300 RUM turned into a .404J. If you study the box mag photo carefully, you'll see "window cuts" in the sheet metal box mag. That's one way to functionally widen the mag box, giving fat rounds more room under the action rails. The follower may need to be altered, although it's reported that wide cases may work with a std mag follower. This action, of course, is mag length. I'm thinking this same box mag treatment could alter a std length magnum action to work with the 26 Nosler case. I'm not sure about the Kimber. DF
Last edited by Dirtfarmer; 06/13/14.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 205
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 205 |
I'm using a M70 Classic currently chambered in 300RUM. I didn't want to mess with the bolt or feed ramps plus I'll have the mag length to let'm hang out all the way. I'm leaning real hard towards making it a 28 Nosler! SCP
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 17,181
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 17,181 |
28 Nosler, that would work.
Randy NRA Patriot Life Benefactor
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178 Likes: 5
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178 Likes: 5 |
The 26 Nosler is a std. length round, not a full mag length round.
My Ed Brown Damara is a .300 Win Mag (a std. length round), but Ed puts his .300 WM's in a full length mag action. I really like that feature, as I can seat heavier bullets without bullet intrusion into the case body. And the gun is chambered such that I can use most of the longer mag.
Now, with the 26 Nosler, do you think that same principle will apply? If so, any RUM donor action will be Kosher to build a 26 Nosler. My .300 WM Damara feeds perfectly. I hope the 26 Nosler will feed in a full length mag action.
I need to study case specs and compare with .300WM. I think there will be more 7RM, .300WM, std. length mag actions available as 26 Nosler donors than RUM actions. So, there needs to be a way to make those actions work.
DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 203
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 203 |
I have a L691 mag action that needs building up at some stage and I just read a write up on the 26 Nosler and it ticks most boxes for me, the only problem is Red Deer and Sambar Deer need a calibre larger than .270 to legal hunt in my home state. Is the 7mm LRM just a necked up version of the 26 Nosler ??? It sounds like the 26 Nosler is a necked down version of a 7mm Dakota that I am most interested in but there is no brass or components in Aus to build one.
I hope Nosler are smart enough to release a 7mm version of this cartridge.
All Dogs Bite All Horses Kick All Boats Sink And All Guns Are Loaded
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178 Likes: 5
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178 Likes: 5 |
There's been Fire discussion about a 28 Nosler (7mm version).
I haven't compared a potential 28 Nosler case capacity with other big 7's. That would be an interesting project.
Hint, hint...
DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178 Likes: 5
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178 Likes: 5 |
Overcome with curiosity, I did some online research. Values for individual rounds vary somewhat but this list gives a general ranking.
..................(gr. H2O) 7.21 Lazaroni.......117 7 RUM...............114.8 7 LRM...............100 7 STW...............98.3 26 Nosler...........93...(may be slightly more opened to 7mm) 7 Washburn Super..90 7 Wby...............87.5 7 Jarrett...........85.5 7 Dakota............85 7 RM................83.2 7 WSM...............83 So, you see where a 28 Nosler would rank among big 7's. It may go 94 or 95 gr. H2O, opened to 7mm. It's so close to some very established rounds, I wonder if there's a real market niche for another big 7. With us loonies, who knows...
It would have to make dollars and sense for Nosler to roll it out...
They may have found a niche with the 26 Nosler, time will tell, but I would be surprised to see a 28 Nosler in an already crowded field.
IMHO,
DF
Edited to add a couple more.
Last edited by Dirtfarmer; 06/16/14.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900 |
DF: Nice work on that list. Those capacities of empty hulls to top of neck?
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178 Likes: 5
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,178 Likes: 5 |
I would assume, but those are just numbers I picked off the internet. You see slightly larger numbers when cases are opened from 6.5mm to 7mm. Filled to the brim would be the only way those values would vary like that. I added the Jarrett and Washburn data later, not wanting to offend anyone... DF
|
|
|
|
175 members (308ld, 10gaugemag, 160user, 257 roberts, alwaysoutdoors, 35, 20 invisible),
1,584
guests, and
973
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,193,209
Posts18,503,904
Members73,994
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|