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to me it says stuff rattling next to the barrel

Assuming everything is well made & assembled, with no one cutting corners on parts, a piston gun might be more reliable or perhaps go longer without cleaning. The LWRC REPR or the H&K 762 would be examples. But both are pushing $4k

plugs, under a good headset, and they are tolerable. At least in the open. Shooting one inside a building might be damn unpleasant, anyway

You might not notice any noise during a real fight, but one shot and you probably couldn't hear much, unless you took time to put on hearing protection.

I had a 16" barrel for mine, with came from the factory with a brake. Shoot it at a public range, and no one would shoot next to you I can't imagine how bad a 12" barrel would be.

By the way, Gunner, I still have an Armalite 16" stainless barrel, that shoots okay. I'd make you a good deal on it, if you want it.

The little Sig 716 'arm hair cutter' has a 12" barrel.

Gunner

10-4, Thanks Tex, dont know why I keep buggin you dudes and trying to learn about different designs and discussing costs, thinkin my old Bud is gonna build and give me one if I'll just chill and wait awhile. lol

Gunner

I am thinking to find one of those DPMS Gen II jobs with the 20 inch barrel and carbon float tube. I like the recon model but Tex has a good point, a 16 inch 308 for what I do (shoot at animals in the woods) would be deafening. I did this once with one of those Marlin's with a ported barrel...never again.

Hopefully, it's not buggin' anybody.

I joined the Campfire to learn about the various aspects of hunting, shooting, wildlife, and outdoors things in general that I'd like to know more about. The forums here are still pretty good for that purpose, with a few noted acceptions, and members.

If a buddy was going to deliver an unknown rifle to me, I'd try and find out as much about it as I could before the delivery. So, I don't think you are out of line, or out of bounds...

Ok, so I really joined the Campfire because a buddy put me onto a great deal on a Sauer 202 in Classified, but you get the idea.

No doubt on the ear wax melting BLAST there Jimmy, my 20" barreled ArmaLite aint no church mouse either.

And a big Rah-Jah on that too AH, my old Buds that live, breathe and bleed this stuff are all world star traveling hands and are 99% of the time not available for questioning, I just didnt want to pester you guys too much, but will admit to being very excited about the build, and price.

Gunner

I know a little but have a lot to learn.

same here!

I am right here as well. Just how much louder is a 16" vs a 20" .308. Is it enough to make a difference?

Yes my DPMS 338 Federal requires the hearing aids be muted prior to shooting as the blast is extremely hard on one's ears.

I had an 18 inch model 7 which seemed louder to me than a 22 inch 30-06. It had a distinctive report according to folks I hunted with.


223, 55GR. Commercial load 18 inch barrel 155.5dB
.243 in 22" barrel 155.9dB
.30-30 in 20" barrel 156.0dB
7mm Magnum in 20" barrel 157.5dB
.308 in 24" barrel 156.2dB
.30-06 in 24" barrel 158.5dB
.30-06 in 18 _" barrel 163.2dB
.375 � 18" barrel with muzzle brake 170 dB

Me three.

Gunner

Based on the '06 numbers, it is substantially louder.

looks like DPMS released a 16 inch hunter model with carbon float tube, and collapsible stock!

Damnit, I'm gonna go ahead and buy something before I get mine built.

Specs/weight? would this be one of the new Gen-II's?

Gunner

And Gunner joins the Dark Side....welcome!

:-)

Well thankee AH.

Gunner

the hunter G2 with fiber float tube, fixed stock, 20 inch SS Teflon coated barrel is 7.7 pounds, they just released the 16 inch hunter in May I don't know how much it weights. I am between the devil and the deep blue sea, 16 inch barrel and adjustable stock (hate barrel length like adjustable) or 20 inch barrel and fixed stock ($70 or more for "fix" to adjustable stock)!

Go with the 20". If you want it shorter, you can always have it cut back to 18" and still have the advantage of the rifle length gas system.

I have the MOE rifle stock on my .308, love it! I like it better than the PRS it replaced.