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On that list it appears the 26 Nosler measurement included the neck, since I got 90 with a 129-grain bullet seated, as does the 7mm Weatherby.

I took 3 gr. off the 26 Nosler and the 7 Wby. Done like that, it shouldn't be very much increase, opening the 26 Nosler to 28 Nosler.

Still not sure how the others were done.

Maybe this is a bit more accurate.



..................(gr. H2O)
7.21 Lazaroni.......117
7 RUM...............114.8
7 LRM...............100
7 STW...............98.3
26 Nosler...........90...(may be slightly more opened to 7mm)
7 Washburn Super..90
7 Jarrett...........85.5
7 Dakota............85
7 Wby...............84.5
7 RM................83.2
7 WSM...............83

Just came to the realization that the 28 Nosler may be an easier way to get to Washburn performnace.

DF

What would you think if it turned out to be a near performance clone of the Washburn?

DF

I would think it would be in some pretty good company...


But I don't think they will make one...

There are lots of magnum 7mm's out there; not so many magnum capacity 6.5's, which is the niche I think Nosler is trying to fill.

I would think it would be in some pretty good company...


But I don't think they will make one...

There are lots of magnum 7mm's out there; not so many magnum capacity 6.5's, which is the niche I think Nosler is trying to fill.

A factory 28 Nosler, IMO, isn't going to happen for the reasons you point out.

BUT, for us Loonies, won't necking up the 26 Nosler to .284 be a real easy way to get a Mashburn wannabe...?

Brass prep would sure be a lot easier. Neck up and go shooting. Can't get much easier than that. That's about the same as forming .22-204 cases. Transforming brass from .204 to .22 204 is so easy it's probably not fair to the .223AI fireformers...

Just had to say that...

DF

Well by releasing the 26 Nosler into Australia they have cornered themselves into a niche market of target shooters, a 28 Nosler makes far more sense for our market due to minimum caliber restrictions in some states for hunting.

Sure....seems like it. An even easier way,today, is get a 7mm LRM and use their factory brass.


Ocean Raider:You mean you can't hunt with a 6.5 some places over there?

26 Nosler brass is pretty pricey, but reportedly is of excellent quality, a lot of prep work already done.

If LRM brass is in the same ball park regarding cost, that may be an option. It's 100 gr. H20 vs. 90 gr. H20, a bigger case burning more powder.

DF

http://www.nosler.com/26-nosler

Nolser load data for 26 Nosler.

Seems Ramshot Magnum is the most accurate powder tested, best load was 80 gr. at 3,305 fps.

DF

Yep that is the case if you want to hunt Sambar and Red Deers in my home state of Victoria, minimum calibre is .270 and there is a case length restriction as well I think so cases like the 7.62x39 is not usable

The 6.5 is a awesome cal but I can only use it for Fellow and Hog Deer, a few years ago you could hunt reds with a minimum calibre of 6mm but for some reason that got up graded to be inline with the Sambar restriction, it's all BULL$HIT but that's what you get when you live in a oppressive society I guess.

In exchange for DUMB calibre restrictions we have some of the most liberal hunting laws in the country, Victorians have open access to all State Forrest to hunt game and pest species, seasonal opening to game reserves for ducks, open access to Nation Parks in some areas to hunt Sambar Deer. The other states are limited to private property and to hunt public land need to go into a booking system and other such nonsense, so I guess it's good and bad

Here is a visual comparison of some of the "Big 7s" with the 26Nosler. This information was garnered from Ammoguide.com. They are arranged by H20 capacity posted by Ammoguide.
7mm Rum - 106.6gr.
26Nosler - 96.4 with a 6.5 neck. A 7mm neck would add a few gr.
7mm STW - 92.7gr.
7mm Dakota- 90.7gr.
7mm Mash - 84.9gr.
7LRM - 84.8gr.
The 7Dakota should be after the STW - my mistake

It looks to me like the Nosler case is the largest that will fit in a 3.6" action with available, quality brass. I'm planning on using a RUM action and throat the barrel long for the 7mm heavy bullets. I'm thinking that the "useable" case capacity will be close to the RUM's. Something like a larger 7LRM. I'm also thinking of a 338x26Nosler on M70 3.6 CRF action.
All information was off the "Internet" so take it for what that's worth although I've found Ammoguide to be pretty reliable.
SCP

Good data, thanks.

Hot off the press, Nosler's 140 gr. data for the 26 Nosler. Looks like it doesn't give up 3,300 very easily and the accuracy speeds are in the 3,150 to 3,200 range. My 6.5-284 will push 140's to a solid 3K (1/2 MOA) with a little over half as much powder (48.8 RL-17).

http://static.squarespace.com/stati...01786c91e9f9b/1403289208653/?format=750w

DF

26 is the largest that will fit a 3.4" action, the RUM and STW work in a full mag 3.6" action. But, if I built a 26 or 28 Nolser, I'd use a RUM action to allow full freedom with the longer bullets.

I've found it frustrating, trying to get gr. of water case capacities for the big 7's. Some are with bullet in place, some are to the brim. The difference can become confusing. For example, I got 93 gr. H2O on line for the 26 Nosler, JB measured 90 by inserting a bullet in the case. I see your number of 96.4. Nosler posts 93, so even though they're all in the ball park, who knows how the others were measured.

DF

Thanks for the corrections DF - Thats what I meant to say.

What's your take on the seemingly loose protocols (if indeed there are any) of measuring case capacity using grains of water? Sorta makes the data suspect.

DF

DF,
I take every thing with a grain of salt! Especially if the info comes from a party that has something to gain from it. Add to that the lack of consistant methodology in measurement and most numbers are suspect. I chose the same source hoping the methodology would be consistant. When I measure volume I like to use a fired case and fill it full of deoxygenated water to a level forming a convex meniscus. That's the prefered method for Quickload data. I have some 26Nosler brass but alas no rifle to fire it in.
SCP

I am not familiar with the Quickload method you reference, but perhaps this is a typo and should have been deionized water?

David

To me, it seems that JB's method of measuring case capacity, using water and placing a bullet in a fired case, makes a lot more sense than to the brim.

If, for example, one took the 26 Nosler case and necked it up to various larger calibers, the to the brim measurements would vary a lot more than the actual powder capacity would vary.

Now, if all case capacity measurement methods were on the same page....

DF