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I don't believe we're getting the full story. It's hard for him to do with limited imagination and making it up on the fly.
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum. I do tend to fit in well wherever I go in person. The campfire is the most outside exposure I get. No TV, no newspaper.
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Any smith that can't /won't work on Rugers ain't much of a smith. Sounds like this is his hobby and not his day job.
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Any smith that can't /won't work on Rugers ain't much of a smith. Sounds like this is his hobby and not his day job. Cuts out a large market segment doesn't it!
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moosemike, take a look at his site, he makes these laminated F class stocks from scratch. Ray Bowman is no second class gunsmith: http://www.precisionriflesales.com/
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From the looks of the mess made with the Ruger, IF he was the one who did it and that is a BIG IF to my mind, he is a second rate smith at best. Moreover, if Ruger was letting guns like that out of the factory their liability lawyers would have a slobberin duck fit. No way Ruger is going to risk such liability.
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QUIT NAME-DROPPING AND POST THE RUGER WORK ORDER, DUMBASS.I am going to get back with Ruger after I get the paperwork from the gunsmith where Ruger shipped the gun back to him.
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum. I do tend to fit in well wherever I go in person. The campfire is the most outside exposure I get. No TV, no newspaper.
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From the looks of the mess made with the Ruger, IF he was the one who did it and that is a BIG IF to my mind, he is a second rate smith at best.
Moreover, if Ruger was letting guns like that out of the factory their liability lawyers would have a slobberin duck fit. No way Ruger is going to risk such liability.
Save a few bucks on scrap to open yourself to the possibility of huge liability suit....................... sure.
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dumbass employees do things they should not, management never knows the difference till something like this happens.
In two weeks, we will hear something from Ruger, till then, I'm done with this.
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I don't believe for a damn minute Ruger is gluing 77s together and nobody else does here either. You that's right YOU or your smith caused this.
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dumbass employees do things they should not, management never knows the difference till something like this happens.
In two weeks, we will hear something from Ruger, till then, I'm done with this. Dumbass trolls post things they can't back up with facts. This "two weeks" bullshit is just your way of exiting the discussion now that you're backed into a corner.
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum. I do tend to fit in well wherever I go in person. The campfire is the most outside exposure I get. No TV, no newspaper.
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I'll bet the smith really appreciates all this free publicity
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Seems as though every body has answered my question except the one I asked. But I guess we all know why.
What is Ruger going to say in two weeks that they have not already told you?
Let me guess, "We don't build crap that way. You want another action or not?"
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Sean, here is your question, "Ok, honest question without the dumbass and dickheads. Does Ruger put epoxy on all barrel/action assemblies when put together?
What actions do they bed before shipping?"
1. Ruger beds no actions prior to shipping.
2. There is a variety of answers from 4 different gunsmiths that I talked with concerning epoxy on threads shipped from the factory. Some say that they have seen epoxy on factory rifle threads, some say that they have not. Honestly, this is the first one that I have ever seen that has had epoxy on the threads. Then again, I have only had two customs built on Rugers and they were both blued actions. My friend just had a custom built on a SS Ruger in 6.5x47L. I don't know if it had epoxy on the threads or not.
3. Sean, the big issue here is not epoxy on the threads, it was more of a hindrance than anything. The big issue is the Rockwell hardness that was so close between the barrel and the action. This causes severe gauling in stainless, and on the Stainess steel will rip and tear with just a slight bit of gauling, depending on many factors in concerning the thread dia, and the pitch angle that the threads are cut at.
4. When threads are really messed up and the action is screwed on the barrel anyway, epoxy is applied to keep barrel from shifting around under the stresses of recoil and heat.
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Sean, here is your question, "Ok, honest question without the dumbass and dickheads. Does Ruger put epoxy on all barrel/action assemblies when put together?
What actions do they bed before shipping?"
1. Ruger beds no actions prior to shipping.
2. There is a variety of answers from 4 different gunsmiths that I talked with concerning epoxy on threads shipped from the factory. Some say that they have seen epoxy on factory rifle threads, some say that they have not. Honestly, this is the first one that I have ever seen that has had epoxy on the threads. Then again, I have only had two customs built on Rugers and they were both blued actions. My friend just had a custom built on a SS Ruger in 6.5x47L. I don't know if it had epoxy on the threads or not.
3. Sean, the big issue here is not epoxy on the threads, it was more of a hindrance than anything. The big issue is the Rockwell hardness that was so close between the barrel and the action. This causes severe gauling in stainless, and on the Stainess steel will rip and tear with just a slight bit of gauling, depending on many factors in concerning the thread dia, and the pitch angle that the threads are cut at.
4. When threads are really messed up and the action is screwed on the barrel anyway, epoxy is applied to keep barrel from shifting around under the stresses of recoil and heat. QUIT SCREWING AROUND AND POST THE RUGER WORK ORDER, DUMBASS.I am going to get back with Ruger after I get the paperwork from the gunsmith where Ruger shipped the gun back to him.
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum. I do tend to fit in well wherever I go in person. The campfire is the most outside exposure I get. No TV, no newspaper.
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You stated you would post the work order, ass face. Your "stories" are tedious and false. Just post the work order. I am going to get back with Ruger after I get the paperwork from the gunsmith where Ruger shipped the gun back to him.
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum. I do tend to fit in well wherever I go in person. The campfire is the most outside exposure I get. No TV, no newspaper.
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No reason. The guy's irrelevant.
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No reason. The guy's irrelevant. Big time relevant. You two ass-lickers can't produce even an ounce of proof.
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum. I do tend to fit in well wherever I go in person. The campfire is the most outside exposure I get. No TV, no newspaper.
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Sean, here is your question,
3. Sean, the big issue here is not epoxy on the threads, it was more of a hindrance than anything. The big issue is the Rockwell hardness that was so close between the barrel and the action. This causes severe gauling in stainless, and on the Stainess steel will rip and tear with just a slight bit of gauling, depending on many factors in concerning the thread dia, and the pitch angle that the threads are cut at.
4. When threads are really messed up and the action is screwed on the barrel anyway, epoxy is applied to keep barrel from shifting around under the stresses of recoil and heat. Pure supposition because you have nothing else.
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No reason. The guy's irrelevant. Big time relevant. You two ass-lickers can't produce even an ounce of proof. Your rants and yelling hissy-fits, you'll always be irrelevant.
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