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So you are saying he should buy one of each just to be safe But of course.
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The search didn't last long. Stopped by the LGS on the way home and started shopping. They had tons of new and used 270's, but I kept going back to the same thing.
They got in 25+ Model 70's on a close out from a distributor a couple weeks ago. Anyway, the rifles are priced WAY below retail (example: Extreme Weathers are $715). I picked up a stainless Ultimate Shadow and headed to the counter...
They're all the BACO Model 70's if anybody is interested.
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Billy,
It's been my experience that people who start quoting numbers when asked for their actual experience--well, there's a reason!
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The search didn't last long. Stopped by the LGS on the way home and started shopping. They had tons of new and used 270's, but I kept going back to the same thing.
They got in 25+ Model 70's on a close out from a distributor a couple weeks ago. Anyway, the rifles are priced WAY below retail (example: Extreme Weathers are $715). I picked up a stainless Ultimate Shadow and headed to the counter...
They're all the BACO Model 70's if anybody is interested. Congrats!
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John,
That rifle you bought is a looker!
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MagMarc,
Thanks! Now I just hope my handloads shoot as well as factory.... JB's JOC rifle Now you need to let Tom shoot her, he'll take back all of his 270 negativity
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Billy,
It's been my experience that people who start quoting numbers when asked for their actual experience--well, there's a reason! Exactly! As I mentioned previously, the 110 TTSX is likely a better all-around bullet for the 270 over the 85 tsx. But for normal hunting distances on deer sized game (especially in the east, as shortactionsmoker spoke of) the 85 works well, and when loaded down somewhat makes a really great low recoil killing bullet. Between Dad and I we've shot enough stuff with the 85 tsx to get a decent idea on how it works. The list includes a couple of antelope (including the doe Dad shot which you were present for), a half dozen mule deer and whitetail does, and a cow elk. I also used the 110 tsx briefly. It seemed to work about like the 85!
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It's been my experience that a lot of bullets make similar holes, even if their weight varies somewhat!
As Phil Shoemaker said on another thread the other day, the three most important things are placement, bullet and the cartridge, and of the three the first is by far the most important, and the second far more important then the third. (Have heard the same thing in various ways from other people, but Phil tends to boil things down.)
Am still trying to get down there for at least a day or so. Might be able to pass through later this month. Things have been a little crazy.
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MagMarc,
Thanks! Now I just hope my handloads shoot as well as factory.... JB's JOC rifle Now you need to let Tom shoot her, he'll take back all of his 270 negativity That is a BEAUTY.
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We will be here! Should be done with haying soon, so will have time to play. That is, if we can keep from blowing up any more tractors.
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Guess I'm the "oddball" I just use 130/150/160 gr Nosler Partition in my .270's for hunting.
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Guess I'm the "oddball" I just use 130/150/160 gr Nosler Partition in my .270's for hunting. I like the 140 Ballistic Tips
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....to buy or build a 270 Winchester.
I'm thinking 85 X's at 3500 would be fun, as would the 150 LRAB. Lots of other bullets in the mix peak my interest -- the 100 and 110 Accubonds with those thick jackets might not be bad either. The typical 130's and 150's do their job. The 270 components are everywhere. I'm stocked with appropriate powders as well.
Not that my 260, 6.5 Creedmoor or 7-08 can't get the job done....and I know there is no real world advantage the 270 offers over my 308 or 243 for the animals I hunt.
I started out with a 270 and evolved. Maybe I've come full circle? I'm with ya on this one. I started with a .270 too. Been thinking a bunch lately about another .270. I've had more DRT kills with a .270 than any other cartridge. Most everything I've shot since should have been just as good and given similar results, but nothing really has. No commonly available true VLD type bullets, but out to 600 or so, the .270 still gives a pretty good account of itself. As much as I watch for the opportunity, nothing seems to provide me with the opportunity to shoot at it that far anyway. I'm thinking maybe a stainless Howa in a Manners EH3� Is $550 a good price on a stainless Howa? John
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Billy, For longer ranges, the 140gr NAB shot well for me. Bullet drop matched JBM out to 800 yards. I see Litz has recently tested the new 150 LRAB and found it had a G1 of 0.569 with 7-twist. With 10-twist it was 0.543... still pretty good but not that much better than the regular 140 NAB. Higher BC bullets in 0.277 would make the 270 even better for LR, but there's plenty of bullets for most hunters. I like the 270 and have owned pump, semi, and bolt actions. It seems like a baby-magnum. Shoots flat enough with 130gr bullets that dotz aren't needed for the ranges most people shoot. Haven't killed anything with a 270 though. Just need to be careful or else this will turn into "the 7mm RM is more uber" Jason
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Speaking of the 7RM... my buddy's T3 Tikkler in 7RM shoots the 150gr NP at ~2900fps with H1000 really well... lights out actually. I just don't tell him that its like a 270 burning a lot more powder J
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The 150 Partition in the .270 does great on big game. Have seen it used on elk, moose and the tougher African plains game, and it flat works. That's not just my opinion, either. Take a look at the .270 info on www.ballisticstudies.com.
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Interesting info on the ABLR, Jason.
I'm also a big fan of the 140 Accubond; it would be a great pick as an all around bullet in the 270 Win.
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John,
What's a realistic velocity (handloads) for the 150gr NPT from a 270Win with 22" barrel?
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Link to Litz's test of the LRAB... Nolser LRAB test by Litz
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I haven't tried the 150 partition, but the 150 Speer Hot-Cor out of a .270 will straight up knock an elk's pecker in the dirt.
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