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That would include me...
The attack on the USS Liberty is a fine example of anti-Israel propaganda.
Never mind that investigations found it to be caused by the fog that occurs in all wars. Including Israeli pilots that first radioing for a S&R for Egyptian survivors.
Never mind that...all part of the cover up.
Except...that in 48 years it never happened again and no one has ever come up with any reasonable reason why Israel would attack their biggest and most steadfast ally.
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That would include me...
The attack on the USS Liberty is a fine example of anti-Israel propaganda.
Never mind that investigations found it to be caused by the fog that occurs in all wars. Including Israeli pilots that first radioing for a S&R for Egyptian survivors.
Never mind that...all part of the cover up.
Except...that in 48 years it never happened again and no one has ever come up with any reasonable reason why Israel would attack their biggest and most steadfast ally. How do you explain the various Israeli spy's that have been caught in the US?
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I'd like to see Israel succeed.
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How do you explain the various Israeli spy's that have been caught in the US? They know there's a large contingent of Horst Wessel League members in our government. They're thinking better safe than sorry, I guess. BTW, does Great Britain have any spies in the US right now? 
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Have had quite a few conversations with a survivor aboard the Liberty. Leaves little doubt that Israel knew WTF they were doing that day. What we were doing too.
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How do you explain the various Israeli spy's that have been caught in the US? They know there's a large contingent of Horst Wessel League members in our government. They're thinking better safe than sorry, I guess. BTW, does Great Britain have any spies in the US right now? Frankly, that�s the sort of response I'd expect from a school child. Israel has routinely spied on America. This is not open for debate as it has been proven in your Courts. I am not particularly anti Israel but I don�t view them with rose tinted glasses either. Israel as a nation is the consummate �user� and puts its own national self-interests very much first. They can broadly be considered an ally of America and the West at the moment only because our respective national interests are similar. Israel and her supports are not trust worthy as the attack on the USS Liberty and its willingness to carry out aggressive espionage operations against its supposedly staunchest ally prove.
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Israel has routinely spied on America. This is not open for debate as it has been proven in your Courts.
I am not particularly anti Israel but I don�t view them with rose tinted glasses either. Israel as a nation is the consummate �user� and puts its own national self-interests very much first. They can broadly be considered an ally of America and the West at the moment only because our respective national interests are similar. Israel and her supports are not trust worthy as the attack on the USS Liberty and its willingness to carry out aggressive espionage operations against its supposedly staunchest ally prove.
A fair summary, but I still prefer the Jews to Arabs and Persians.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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James,
Its not about "preferences" its about how many Americans are completely blind when it comes to Israel and only see the country through rose tinted glasses.
If America wasn't Israel's personal big brother and cash cow, Israel wouldn't give a damn about them..
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True...but I still prefer the Jews to Arabs and Persians.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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I'd like to see Israel succeed. They will. They have GOD on their side. Hamas, not so much. I say kill em all and send them to be with Allah and his 83 virgin goats.
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How do you explain the various Israeli spy's that have been caught in the US? They know there's a large contingent of Horst Wessel League members in our government. They're thinking better safe than sorry, I guess. BTW, does Great Britain have any spies in the US right now? hell, every country in the world is spying to the best of their ability. We spy on them, they spy on us. We spy on friends and foes. So do they. Why does this come as a surprise?
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Huh?
Their Messiah (God with us) said, �You have heard that it was said, �You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.� But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust."
When He saw the hearts of their leaders He said, "You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies."
So they said �Away with this man, and release to us Barabbas� and they not only killed Him but they killed & imprisoned those who followed Him.
And you say that now that they're going to kill those enemies they were told to love that God is on their side?
Doesn't seem to fit, but I know it's a popular thought, so carry on...
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How do you explain the various Israeli spy's that have been caught in the US? They know there's a large contingent of Horst Wessel League members in our government. They're thinking better safe than sorry, I guess. BTW, does Great Britain have any spies in the US right now? Frankly, that�s the sort of response I'd expect from a school child. Israel has routinely spied on America. This is not open for debate as it has been proven in your Courts. I am not particularly anti Israel but I don�t view them with rose tinted glasses either. Israel as a nation is the consummate �user� and puts its own national self-interests very much first. They can broadly be considered an ally of America and the West at the moment only because our respective national interests are similar. Israel and her supports are not trust worthy as the attack on the USS Liberty and its willingness to carry out aggressive espionage operations against its supposedly staunchest ally prove. Pete: Spot on.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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That's the reality.
Loving or hating another nation and its people is irrelevant. Objective assessment and policies in our own national interest are what are important, both near and long term.
Such matters are never neat or pretty.
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I try to stay fairly balanced.
If Israel feels the need to go after Hamas or Hezbollah or Santa Claus, they can do it - more power to 'em
but if you start getting your ass whupped, don't look to us to bail you out.
and that is where the disconnect is in this country. Somehow, the Bowsingers believe we're obligated to keep them on the winning side, no matter the cost to us..in U.S. soldier lives, money and our economy.
my definition of an ally is a country that provides a mutually beneficial relationship with our country, not a one sided , parasitic one.
That's not an ally in any form of the word....or world.
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Only IF it's in the national interest.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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