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Originally Posted by bigwhoop
Hamas rejected the Egyptian peace deal, you moronic idiot!
Hamas leaders issued a statement that they were never consulted on the Egyptian peace deal. It appears, however, that Hamas has now lost confidence in Egypt as a peace broker, but would accept either Turkey or Qatar in its place. The ball is now in Israel's court if peace is something they're truly interested in.

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Ellis Scofield.
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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Good read,....for people who actually do that every now and then,..

http://www.antiwar.com/scheuer/?articleid=13139
"As long as the Israel-firsters can define the limits of acceptable public discourse, Americans are on their way to the slaughter."

Excellent article. Thanks for posting it, Bristoe.

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Hey man whatever it takes to keep God on our side cuz... You know... Human sacrifice is His thing these days... crazy

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Good read,....for people who actually do that every now and then,..

http://www.antiwar.com/scheuer/?articleid=13139
"As long as the Israel-firsters can define the limits of acceptable public discourse, Americans are on their way to the slaughter."

Excellent article. Thanks for posting it, Bristoe.


Yeah,...but the way I see it,...what America does from here on out is a moot point.

The damage has already been done. The day that America can no longer afford to enable Israel, they're going to have a serious problem,...and when the problem gets past a certain point, Israel will initiate the Samson option,...as they've threatened.

As I continue to say,...it's got to play out.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Good read,....for people who actually do that every now and then,..

http://www.antiwar.com/scheuer/?articleid=13139
"As long as the Israel-firsters can define the limits of acceptable public discourse, Americans are on their way to the slaughter."

Excellent article. Thanks for posting it, Bristoe.


Yeah,...but the way I see it,...what America does from here on out is a moot point.

The damage has already been done. The day that America can no longer afford to enable Israel, they're going to have a serious problem,...and when the problem gets past a certain point, Israel will initiate the Samson option,...as they've threatened.

As I continue to say,...it's got to play out.
I agree. The state of "Israel" is a true curse on the world, but any reading of the New Testament should have made that very predictable.

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What would you do, just stand by and let them you kill your family in order not to do that "second wrong"
Misplaced hate must be making some of you crazy.
You would not defend your family if crazy inbred mo fos were shooting at you?
The Israelis don't want peace. They want genocidal ethnic cleansing. When their victims respond as any genocidal ethnic cleansing victims would, said response is used as justification for further genocidal ethnic cleansing activity. The whole pattern from day one for Israel has been one of systematic, genocidal, ethnic cleansing. They want them gone, so they prod them till some small reaction is elicited, then they bomb the crap out of them again, all in an effort to drive them out of their land.

If the Israelis wanted peace, they would take Hamas up on their offer for a peace brokered by Egypt.




It is not Anti-Semite to disagree with Israel. To have a different opinion about what they should be doing as a country with their many battles.

It is Anti-Semite to lie about their battles with those who have taken vows in their own houses of worship to exterminate Israel and all Jews from the face of the earth.
To constantly repeat the Anti-Semite propaganda and give it as truth.
To twist the truth into something evil.

It is extreme Anti-Semitism to falsely claim that Israel or any Jews want genocidal ethnic cleansing of anybody-anywhere.
It does not sink any lower than that.

It is a insulting false claim with nothing to back this Anti-Semitism except quotes from other Anti-Semitists.

This from a man who goes to great lengths to deny his Anti-Semitism...


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It is extreme Anti-Semitism to falsely claim that Israel or any Jews want genocidal ethnic cleansing of anybody-anywhere.
It does not sink any lower than that.

It is a insulting false claim with nothing to back this Anti-Semitism except quotes from other Anti-Semitists.
"Israel needs to conquer and thoroughly cleanse the Gaza Strip."

- Israeli Minister of Foreign Affairs Avigdor Liberman

"The goal of the operation is to send Gaza back to the Middle Ages, only then will Israel be calm for the next 40 years."

- Israeli Interior Minister Eli Yishai

"There are no innocents in Gaza, don�t let any diplomats who want to look good in the world endanger your lives � mow them down!"

- Michael Ben-Ari, Israeli Knesset


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Good read,....for people who actually do that every now and then,..

http://www.antiwar.com/scheuer/?articleid=13139
"As long as the Israel-firsters can define the limits of acceptable public discourse, Americans are on their way to the slaughter."

Excellent article. Thanks for posting it, Bristoe.



This link is a 2008 piece of Crapp that claims that anyone who supports Israel �has no loyalty to the United States and its genuine national interests.�
Including the Rev. Franklin Graham.


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Originally Posted by BOWSINGER
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Good read,....for people who actually do that every now and then,..

http://www.antiwar.com/scheuer/?articleid=13139
"As long as the Israel-firsters can define the limits of acceptable public discourse, Americans are on their way to the slaughter."

Excellent article. Thanks for posting it, Bristoe.



This link is a 2008 piece of Crapp that claims that anyone who supports Israel �has no loyalty to the United States and its genuine national interests.�
Including the Rev. Franklin Graham.


Here's the author.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2003209/bio

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verbatim from...The Evening Blues - 7-10-14 - Daily Kos
m.dailykos.com/stories/1312183
Daily Kos Jul 10, 2014 -
A FDL contributor, fairleft posted these quotes that he found in a comment section of a CNN article:
On Gaza, Key Israelis Speak of Ethnic Cleansing and Mass Killing
�Israel needs to conquer and thoroughly cleanse the Gaza Strip�
- Israeli FM Avigdor Liberman
�The goal of the operation is to send Gaza back to the Middle Ages, only then will Israel be calm for the next 40 years.�
- Israeli Interior Minister Eli Yishai
�There are no innocents in Gaza, don�t let any diplomats who want to look good in the world endanger your lives � mow them down!�
- Michael Ben-Ari


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"The nation of Israel has always been persecuted by its neighbors. Why is this? According to the Bible, it is because God has a special plan for the nation of Israel, and Satan wants to defeat that plan. Satanically influenced hatred of Israel�and especially Israel�s God�is the reason Israel�s neighbors have always wanted to see Israel destroyed. Whether it is Sennacherib, king of Assyria; Haman, official of Persia; Hitler, leader of Nazi Germany; or Rouhani, President of Iran, attempts to completely destroy Israel will always fail."


Israel's role..


"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."
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Originally Posted by GeoW
"The nation of Israel has always been persecuted by its neighbors. Why is this? According to the Bible, it is because God has a special plan for the nation of Israel, and Satan wants to defeat that plan. Satanically influenced hatred of Israel�and especially Israel�s God�is the reason Israel�s neighbors have always wanted to see Israel destroyed. Whether it is Sennacherib, king of Assyria; Haman, official of Persia; Hitler, leader of Nazi Germany; or Rouhani, President of Iran, attempts to completely destroy Israel will always fail."


Israel's role..


Dispensationalism

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Slightly off topic,..but not much.

http://www.fredoneverything.net/Abroad.shtml

Excerpt:

The United States is the most hated country in the world, followed closely by Israel, and then by nobody. Why? Why not Ecuador? China? Russia? East Timor? The hostility puzzles many Americans, who genuinely believe their country to be a force for good, a pillar of democracy, a defender of human rights.

To the rest of the world, none of this is even close.

If you have lived abroad, as so very few Americans have, the explanation for the hatred is obvious: Meddling. Relentless, prideful, uncomprehending meddling, frequently military, often with horrendous death tolls. Americans, adroitly managed by a controlled press, historically illiterate, incurious, decreasingly educated, either have never heard of the American behavior that angers others, or believe it to have been inspired by virtuous motives. Nobody else thinks so. Add to unfamiliarity with the wider world the constantly inculcated assertion that America is the greatest, most wonderful nation ever to exist, a light to the world, a shining city on a hill, and you get a dangerously delusional state.
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It might be wise to compare briefly the view through American and foreign eyes. Consider Iraq. To most of the world, the war on Iraq was brutal, unprovoked, and murderous. More than a few, looking at the ruins of Fallujah, thought of Guernica�of which few in the States have ever heard.

Many Americans do not believe that we destroyed Iraq for oil, empire, and the Israel lobby, as was in fact the case. No. We wanted to topple an evil dictator and dispense the precious gift of democracy. It was a question of goodness. Many apparently still believe that Iraq had something to do with the attacks on New York. Again, controlled press, poor schooling, little curiosity.




Must be why so many try to come here...

America Is the Most Hated Country on Earth � LewRockwell ...
www.lewrockwell.com/.../america-is-the-most-hated-...
Llewellyn Rockwell

23/May 2013BBC poll: Germany most popular country in the world
No.8 USA
Iran and Pakistan tied for last place in the poll just below North Korea


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Again, controlled press, poor schooling, little curiosity.






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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by GeoW
"The nation of Israel has always been persecuted by its neighbors. Why is this? According to the Bible, it is because God has a special plan for the nation of Israel, and Satan wants to defeat that plan. Satanically influenced hatred of Israel�and especially Israel�s God�is the reason Israel�s neighbors have always wanted to see Israel destroyed. Whether it is Sennacherib, king of Assyria; Haman, official of Persia; Hitler, leader of Nazi Germany; or Rouhani, President of Iran, attempts to completely destroy Israel will always fail."


Israel's role..


Dispensationalism


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"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."
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Still haven't heard from the haters here exactly why they hate Israel so much.


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OSU_Sig,

That was an extremely elementary arguing gambit. No one has professed hatred for Israel, while many posters here have professed hatred of Palestinians, hatred that has morphed in to supporting Israel's genocide of hapless Palestinians.

Why would you support Israel, a country founded upon terrorism by terrorists, a country that has repeatedly spied on us, a country that has declared war on us and murdered 34 American sailors, a country that has sold technology we gave it to protect itself to our enemies, a country with an apartheid government that was far worse than South Africa's, a country of gross and fatal human rights violations, a country that is expelling non-Jews, including Christians...?

It appears as though you could use Middle East knowledge.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
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Again, controlled press, poor schooling, little curiosity.







That covers that majority of America's population.


�If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.�
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