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I will grant you that I cannot know for sure not having firsthand experience, but I have my own judgement to the contrarily as your belief because such behavior attributed to Islamists, like Hamas is based on the cumulative past history of similar behaviors�And past behavior is the most reliable predictor of future behavior.

If there is evidence presented in the future to the contrary to what I believe, I will change my mind.

I also do not believe that Israel nor the USA have always been the paradigms of virtue, but in the evolution of societies both have unequivocally done more for the advancement of liberty and have promoted the best outcomes for the greatest number of people.

Paragons.

If your premise is wrong (what you think is cumulative past [sic] history) is wrong, your conclusion will be wrong. It might be wise to strive for facts and scuttle propaganda.

You have no clue of Middle Eastern facts. You know only what MSM has told you. Here's another desperately needly clue for you: news media are entertainment. They are not factual. In fact, news media are so inherently unreliable that anything it spews are considered hearsay, hence, inadmissible in court to prove anything.

I think paradigms might fit him better ;-)

If you were an English teacher instead of a history (or is it social studies) teacher, you'd know that his use of the word "paradigms" is acceptable in that sentence.

Oh God, what would we do without interjection from the AIPAC shill?

How much does AIPAC shillin' pay?

My own sources of information include multiple media outlets (mostly for entertainment), first hand accounts of family members who have been on the ground in the ME through their military service, as well as my own observations of the predictable outcomes of behavioral choices made by people and societies.�Any way you slice it, and grammar aside, it is a polarizing issue, that we can all agree on.

They hate the idea that a tiny country like Israel-----------one that's surrounded by millions of Muzzies who'd rather bomb/fight/murder them then let them hold onto their tiny plot of land while they either fight amongst themselves or learn to improve the living conditions,---------should have the audacity to fight back against these 12th century pieces of [bleep] that love nothing more, and know nothing more than to fight until their out of munitions and males over the age of 12. IF they had the means to fight the entire globe simultaneously they love nothing more. The haters are mad because Israel seems to have this notion that a strong offense happens to be a decent defense against these lying, mouth breathing rats.

If Israel wanted the kill all of the Palestinians then why haven't they done it? They have the power to go into Gaza and the West Bank and move them into death camps. They could start up gas chambers and kill millions of them or just shoot them. However, they haven't done that and your charges of "genocidal ethnic cleansing activity" is bogus Hamas propaganda.

Hamas promises to destroy the state of Israel and exterminate the Jews. They are trying hard to do this by launching their terrorist missiles to kill innocent civilians. Their problem is that they aren't competent enough to defeat Israel.

ConradCA,

You've posted:

"Hamas promises to destroy the state of Israel and exterminate the Jews. They are trying hard to do this by launching their terrorist missiles to kill innocent civilians. Their problem is that they aren't competent enough to defeat Israel."

What is your source of this? Do you have a source with Hamas, which was created by Israel, who is keeping you posted on Hamas strategy?

It sure has hell sounds like propaganda to me.

Does it really matter how many Israeli's die from the rockets? If someone was shooting at you and was a bad shot would you just ignore them or fire back?

You forgot kidnapping and murdering children in cold blood.

ConradCA,

How do you know Hamas, which was created by Israel, is shooting rockets at Israel?

I have no clue of what is factual in the Middle East. Neither do you. All you have is MSM sources, and MSM is inherently unreliable as to facts.

A couple of facts.

Gaza has a population density of about 650 people per square mile.

43.5% of the population of Gaza is age 14 or under.

We should just give the Muslims the same choice they give to those of other religions. Convert or die.

ConradCA,

Why would you suppose it is any of our damned business what Muslims do without the USA?

These statements are reasonable reactions to Hamas terrorism. Just look at how we reacted to the Japanese and Nazis during WW2. Look what we did to their cities. They chose war and we gave them as much as we could and that is a recipe for victory. Israel should do the same to Hamas.

However, they are just statements of opinion not declarations of their government that they were going to murder millions of Palestinians.

Gaza is a squalid concentration camp which holds 1.8 million people. 43.5% of them are age 14 and under.

Israel is using state of the art heavy armaments on one of the most densely populated places on Earth and has periodically been doing so for years,...and close to half the population that they're shelling is age 14 or under.

The people of Gaza are trapped there. They can't leave.

It's called "shooting fish in a barrel",...very young fish.

Hamas calls for the destruction of Israel in their charter. They teach their children to hate Jews. They call for the elimination of Israel. All you have to do is listen to what they say.

They kidnapped and murdered 3 Jewish children. They celebrated the Palestinian who murder a Jewish baby with a knife. The rockets that they are launching have no military purpose because they aren't accurate enough to target the Israeli military. Their purpose is to terrorize and kill Jewish civilians.

If they really wanted peace, they could easily get it. They just have to stop their terrorism and accept the reality of Israel. The result would be prosperity and peace as Israel has many relatively well paying opportunities for them to work.