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Call it a centimeter...... Now THAT is funny!
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think they're both great rounds
though prefer the 10 for walking around the big piney
the .40 for the big city
though either one is apt to get you by in a pinch
provided
you remember the 5 cardinal priorities for shooting when it counts
1. shot placement
2. shot placement
3. shot placement
4. bullet/cartridge combo
5. platform I do believe that you have hit the nail square on the head with this post, of course. But those truisms are not nearly as fun to argue over! Great post though, for sure.
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think they're both great rounds
though prefer the 10 for walking around the big piney
the .40 for the big city
though either one is apt to get you by in a pinch
provided
you remember the 5 cardinal priorities for shooting when it counts
1. shot placement
2. shot placement
3. shot placement
4. bullet/cartridge combo
5. platform Agreed. Wisdom here.
I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.
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The .40 originally was a shortened & loaded down version of the 10mm - the so-called FBI load was a subsonic 180gr. The supersonic loads have always been good stoppers, and with modern bullets, even more so. Shoot a .40 in a Kahr P40, you will say ouch, and cease calling it short & weak.
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Call it a centimeter...... Now THAT is funny! Cooper frequently did call it just that, and he was mathematically correct, too.
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The .40S&W was a caliber that did not have to be, except to make money for smith and wesson, and winchester. And is ballistically similar to a 1900 vintage .38wcf. Issues of it's own on reloading, and the ugly middle child between 9mm and 45acp.
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That is a GREAT nickname for it! I guess one of my hopes with this thread, and another like unto it about two years ago, is to maybe come up with a good nickname for it even if only used here. Kinda like in custom rifles they refer to a model 700 as a "sucks" action and the 7x57 often as an Ingwe special. Something that gives it the ring and it should have, something that better indicates the performance of the round even if just in name. AK40 is a good one so far.
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Speaking of the .38-40, anbody ever shoot one with factory ammo ? I got to try one a while back. Now there is an easy to shoot, mild recoiling round with low muzzle blast. Very nice in an old Colt Peacemaker. E
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That is a GREAT nickname for it! I guess one of my hopes with this thread, and another like unto it about two years ago, is to maybe come up with a good nickname for it even if only used here. Kinda like in custom rifles they refer to a model 700 as a "sucks" action and the 7x57 often as an Ingwe special. Something that gives it the ring and it should have, something that better indicates the performance of the round even if just in name. AK40 is a good one so far. Good grief. Thanks for proving my earlier post correct. The 10 is a damned good round on it's own merits. It doesn't need a ridiculous nickname by someone more concerned about feeling better or bigger about himself or impressing someone else. If it were called the .39cm LimpDick but had he same ballistics, would you carry it or be more concerned with appearances than appearance? At this point, the answer is rather obvious - you'd shun it, regardless of facts and performance. You quoted the earlier post as being truth, as it is, but do everything possible to avoid the logic and wisdom in it.
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Why doesn't he just get a 40 Super? The 40 Super is about 200 FPS faster than the 10mm with every bullet weight. He is infatuated with velocity.
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Someone has to provide an occasional target for those who do so love to fire off their own, in it's way, "short & weak ammo".
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I think it sounds like you care too damned much about what others think and impressing them, regardless of facts.
He's suffering from SDS. You yankee koksukker. GFY
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TAK,
The only way you'll get past your anger is through Christ's love.
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LOVE LIFTED ME.... LOVE LIFTED ME.....
WHEN NOTHING ELSE COULD HELP, LOVE...... LIFTED.......... ME......
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I think it sounds like you care too damned much about what others think and impressing them, regardless of facts.
He's suffering from SDS. You yankee koksukker. GFY Was that directed at me?
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TAK,
The only way you'll get past your anger is through Christ's love.
Travis Who's angry? Don't confuse candor for anger.
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TAK,
Denial is not the waterway to Christ's love and forgiveness.
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