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Ran lots of 1911's, Hi-Standard & S&W 22's through a Ransom........assuming the rest is not moving on the table, I've never adjusted the POI between shots.

Any movement between the slide & frame is there regardless of whether the gun is fired from a rest or by hand & is an integral part of its accuracy; naturally, when fired by hand the sights move off POI & must be realigned.

Or maybe I'm not correctly understanding your point, JOG.

By the way, good to see you back & posting again.

MM


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Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Ran lots of 1911's, Hi-Standard & S&W 22's through a Ransom........assuming the rest is not moving on the table, I've never adjusted the POI between shots.


That's the correct procedure to determine the precision of the pistol, IMO, but not everyone does it that way (especially gun writers).

Back to outshooting a Ransom, I should have specified Browning-type tilting barrels. Hi-Standards and the like don't count due to the rigid sights/barrel/frame assembly.

As you know, only the frame is locked into the POI in a Ransom for the first shot. The slide assembly and muzzle can move off line shot-to-shot within the tolerances of the pistol. That's the true test of the precision of the pistol, but opens up the Ransom rest to defeat by a human shooter that realigns the sights for each shot.

Thanks for the welcome...I think. I see you haven't done much to clean the place up. That's the last time I leave you in charge. smirk


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The ones I have and shoot best most easily are:

(1) My USP Expert in .40 S&W: http://www.hk-usa.com/civilian_products/uspe_general.asp

and

(2) My XD40 Tactical: http://springfieldxdstore.com/index.php?tpl=xd40-5-tactical1

[Linked Image]

The 4-lb SA trigger pull on the HK makes it pretty easy to shoot groups that I can't with other pistols.

My brother usually can shoot better than me with his Browning Hipower, but he's just a bit better (though I beat him with a rifle).

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CZ (polymer) low end model, if it is striker fired? Most accurate polymer pistol I have shot.

Glock 30 in 45 acp dang accurate?

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My experience is a Glock over the XDS by a whisper.

The G30 is a super accurate shooter for me after I tweaked it a wee bit.

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