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Apparently you don't know much.

What country brought down the Twin Towers? Never mind. You don't know.

Here's a clue: no country brought down the Twin Towers. Terrorists did. Can you discern the difference. Think about it and get back to me next year after you figure it out.

Scott, you're a perfect example of a propagandized American who ought not vote. What you THINK you know is far from fact.

Um, actually, the government of Afghanistan directly supported the people that hijacked those planes. Granted, it wasn't much of a government, but it was "the" government nonetheless.....

By your argument, if some terrorists trained and outfitted by Iran staged a massive attack killing thousands in the US on our soil, well, we shouldn't do jack because they were just terrorists.

Pure genius.

Don't bother, he is most likely a goat shagging Islamic shill, and you are wasting your time attempting meaningful discourse.

Just ignore it.

You know nothing about me, my education, or my IQ so reject your statements.

It is not any one country or race of people we are in conflict but rather a false religion that calls for the eradication of every person that will not bow to their radical demands. It is a religion that grants the highest honor to those who die killing everybody else.

Scott, I can read what you post & deduce your knowledge.

Were you referring to Judaism here:

"It is not any one country or race of people we are in conflict but rather a false religion that calls for the eradication of every person that will not bow to their radical demands. It is a religion that grants the highest honor to those who die killing everybody else."

+1

If not, he should have been.

Unless they converted to Islam or paid protection money, the Christians were told, they would get �nothing but the sword.� It was now clear, the 30,000 to 50,000 Christians who fled Mosul over the last decade wouldn�t be able to return, and the several hundred still remaining there this month needed to get out fast. (Iraqi Christian parliamentarian Younadam Kannan said at least five Christian families too sick to leave renounced their faith for Islam �to stay alive,� though one of their daughters did flee.)

There will be a bigger war soon.

You will say this until the Muslims knock on your front door and tell you to convert or die

our war is happening down on our southern border, not in Gaza

Author Naomi Wolf was challenged to read the Bible. What she found blew her mind (her words). What she wrote about this is likely to blow your mind, too.

She posted the results on Facebook on Monday morning:

Okay, so I was challenged below: �Read the Bible! God gave the land of Israel to the Jewish people.�

So�.I may get crucified for this but I have started to say it � most recently (terrified, trembling) to warm welcome in a synagogue in LA:
Actually if you read Genesis Exodus and Deuteronomy in Hebrew � as I do � you see that God did not �give� Israel to the Jews/Israelites. We as Jews are raised with the creed that �God gave us the land of Israel� in Genesis � and that ethnically �we are the chosen people.�
But actually � and I could not believe my eyes when I saw this, I checked my reading with major scholars and they confirmed it � actually God�s �covenant� in Genesis, exodus and Deuteronomy with the Jewish people is NOT ABOUT AN ETHNICITY AND NOT ABOUT A CONTRACT. IT IS ABOUT A WAY OF BEHAVING.
Again and again in the �covenant� language He never says: �I will give you, ethnic Israelites, the land of Israel.� Rather He says something far more radical � far more subversive � far more Godlike in my view. He says: IF you visit those imprisoned�act mercifully to the widow and the orphan�welcome the stranger in your midst�tend the sick�do justice and love mercy �.and perform various other tasks�THEN YOU WILL BE MY PEOPLE AND THIS LAND WILL BE YOUR LAND.
So �my people� is not ethnic � it is transactional. We are God�s people not by birth but by a way of behaving, that is ethical, kind and just. And we STOP being �God�s people� when we are not ethical, kind and just. And ANYONE who is ethical, kind and just is, according to God in Genesis, �God�s people.�
And the �contract� to �give� us Israel is conditional � we can live in God�s land IF we are �God�s people� in this way � just, merciful, compassionate. AND � it never ever says, it is ONLY your land. Even when passages spell out geographical �boundaries� as if God does such a thing, it never says this is exclusively your land.
It never says I will give this land JUST to you. Remember these were homeless nomads who had left slavery in Egypt and were wandering around in the desert; at most these passages say, settle here, but they do not say, settle here exclusively. Indeed again and again it talks about welcoming �zarim� � translated as �strangers� but can also be translated as �people/tribes who are not you� � in your midst.
Blew my mind, hope it blows yours.

You can read the rest here: here.

How many Jews have attacked the US? My understanding is it is islam that wants all Jews and all Christians dead.

This !!!

Did the CIA fill you in on this, MSM, or did you come up with it on your own?

peace in the middle east --- when pigs can fly

The Talmud tells how much contempt they have for all Christians and Christian culture. You want to see murder of Christians and Christian culture on a massive scale by Jews in control of a government? Look no further than the history of Russia.

You have read you AIPAC script well, for you are master of disinformation.

You're got these disinformation tactics wired:

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as �kooks�, �right-wing�, �liberal�, �left-wing�, �terrorists�, �conspiracy buffs�, �radicals�, �militia�, �racists�, �religious fanatics�, �sexual deviates�, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.
6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism reasoning � simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent�s viewpoint.

7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could so taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.

8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough �jargon� and �minutiae� to illustrate you are �one who knows�, and simply say it isn�t so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

Hasbara is Jewish propaganda aimed at foreign countries.

Jewish Hasbara Troll attributes:

1.Supreme point of view
2.The Hasbara troll knows best
3.Condescending & Patronising
4.Socialist (Smart and �caring�)
5.Do not have to be Jewish but Pro-Israel
6.Internet experts
7.Narcissistic
8.Provocative
9.Dis-ruptive
10.Like to ask the questions, not answer questions
11.Control freaks
12.Inflamed by anyone being critical of Israel
13.�Moral� Guardians
14.Classic insults: Anti-semite, Neo- Nazi, White Supremacist, Holocaust denier
15.Adept with social networks well trained on IT

Hasbara trolls use internet alerts to warn them when hot keywords are mentioned. Keywords such as Israel, Jewish, Judaism etc. When those words are mentioned they are alerted and they go to investigate who is talking about what.

Troll techniques:

1.Turn up randomly asking question about Israel, trying to engage/educate.
2.Guilt by association, they point to some source your are linked to as being anti-semitic or neo-nazi.
3.Opportunity to redeem � the offer chance to recant from your naive ways.
4.Smears and insults � if the top 3 fail then it�s just character assassination.
5.Name bombing � using seo in blackhat ways to denounce and smear people. ie website with 37 mentions of someones name will prob get a Page one on Google.
6.Hasbara trolls generally follow the rules of social networks, because they want to continue to influence people and subvert open and free debate.

Can we guess who the Hasbara trolls on the 'fire are??? ;-)

Hey you, you camel humping wannabe sand flea.


Don't you know what the;

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means.

Stick with me now...try to drag your gaze from behind the dromedary nuts for just a second and concentrate!

It means...I don't give a flying toss about you or your bullshit, I am not impressed about your knowledge of Islam, I don't give a toss about your knowledge of Israel, the Jews, or any of a myriad other subjects you may wish to discuss.

You are a shill, and not a very good one at that.