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You guys hunting with 30 cal 155 Scenars: what kind of terminal performance could I expect when impact velocity is 2000 and below?
I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.
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Dead Critters..............
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I've seen them crush a very nice brown bear (9' & 27") at something like 2200 fps. Seeing their effect would make it hard for me to believe that they'd bounced off if they were a tad slower........
It'd be tough to trump the deadening they can do.
Suck bullets simply suck.
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Hell...they even hold together when Subsonic..............(grin)
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The only criticism I've heard from anyone I know (not pushing the design's possible limits) is that they don't open as fast as Bergers. How are they are 3k on something big and heavy?
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Bergers aren't even on the same PLANET................(hint)
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Not being a reloader I must ask, w/ great trepidation, who makes these in 308. Thanks in advance.
mike r
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Not being a reloader I must ask, w/ great trepidation, who makes these in 308. Thanks in advance.
mike r Lapua and Cor-Bon
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You'll want to fasten your seat belt,with Cor-Bon...............(grin)
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.284 Bergers at 3000-3200 fps are one shot killers for Rocky Mountain elk and moose. I have used this bullet myself, watched my son (we use 140 gr or 168 gr), and my neighbor (168 gr and 180 gr with the latter at about 2800)all demonstrate the same results numerous times. I can't be made to believe they are not totally effective. The same neighbor shot a Yukon moose (I forget how it scored, but it was exceptional) at about 1000 yards with a 180 VLD from a 7 Rem Mag. Again a one shot kill. This video was on You Tube for a while but I don't know if it still is there as this occurred back in 2010 or 2011. This is not to say that there are not equal choices among the other brands of bullets but I tend to use what works for me in the field.
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Wow!
Thanks for sharing!.............
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Bergers aren't even on the same PLANET................(hint) Yep. The Bergers really stink� 168gr VLD, 10 shots at 100m, about .6 MOA. 155gr VLD, DRT. 155gr VLD,DRT 155gr VLD. Ran maybe 30 yards. 130gr VLD, DRT 130gr VLD. Moved maybe 15 feet and was too sick to move further. 130gr VLD. Made it maybe 30 yards. [img] http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/Hondo64d/39aee0c9.jpg[/img] 130gr VLD. DRT. [img] http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/Hondo64d/d62e8e1f.jpg[/img] 115gr VLD. DRT. [img] http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/Hondo64d/IMG_0389-1.jpg[/img] 115gr VLD. DRT. [img] http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n159/Hondo64d/IMG_0388-1.jpg[/img] To be continued� John
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Hondo,
Holy Smokes,that is some magnificent work!...................
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Really nice photos and info Hondo. I need to post some of my kills with 140 gr and 168 gr VLD's. The species vary but the shots are as impressive. Thanks for sharing these pictures.
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155gr VLD. DRT. 155gr Scenar Ran about 100 yards. 155gr Scenar. DRT. The pig and the coyote are the only things I've shot with the Scenar so far. Scenar Shooter has indicated they are a bit harder in construction than VLDs and based on the very small sample size of the critters I've shot with them, I believe him. That being said, they are very easy to get to shoot well. Here's a couple of groups at 400 and 500 yards. Plates are 8": 400 yards. 500 yards. John
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If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
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Holy SMOKES...that is AWESOME!
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Thought for a minute you were going to regale us with how the multitude of critters you have shot with VLDs somehow got away unharmed. I should have known better. I am fortunate in that I don't have to guess... John
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Thanks for the pics John! Those steel plates...great shooting!
I have a lot of confidence in VLDs. They do as well as anything I've seen. My only complaint is they haven't opened fast enough. The wound channels have looked like std CE hunting bullets. I shoot for the ribs though.
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True. On broadside shots on small critters, they don't really come unglued until a pretty good ways into the vitals. Even so, they have anchored everything I've shot with them much quicker than other bullets on the average.
I still plan on shooting more stuff with the Scenars though. They are very easy to get to shoot well, the BCs are great and there has been enough success with them on critters by others that I am sure going to give them a fair shake.
John
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Hondo64,
I reckon that when you are done guessing,you will see the Scenar light and still be sluicing Rats,Dinks and Vermin.
ToldjaSo..................(hint)
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