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There is an alternative to full auto.

Load only one round.

She squeezes one round on a single - shot setting, then he reaches down and clearly says, "Okay - now full auto". 2 seconds later he's done.

I'm just commenting on the rent a machine gun ranges in LV..

If everything you assumed is accurate.....

I work at the original and busiest of those Las Vegas ranges that feature machine gun rentals. No child of that age and stature would be allowed to shoot that weapon. We offer a kids package that features exotic looking 10-22s. No shooter of any age that shoots a rental, other than ccw quals following instruction, is allowed to hold a firearm w/out an instructor w/in hands reach of the ejection port at all times. The Uzi would be about the last firearm I would hand a child. We average 12 million rounds downrange annually. We haven't had an injury in 25 years of operation other than suicides. I can't imagine that operation remaining insurable. Despite a flawless safety record our insurance cost is staggering. This unnecessary tragedy won't be good thing for anyone interested in guns.

mike r

To no one in particular.

The age should have nothing to do with kids shooting,just how mature they are.
had my kids shooting 22's when 5 or 6 and it was a single shot.
Then worked them up to larger caliber as they got bigger.
I found that they were not able to handle the larger calibers they went back down.
Safety was gone over all the time,still is.
Things sometimes don't work out as we hope,but i hope that the child is getting some help to get over this.
The parents are the ones to blame for this not the range and the instructor had a rather large hand in this happening.

story going around several years ago about the same thing happening at the machine gun shoot with a 10 year old.

kid wasn't prepared for the gun rising up on him and shot someone.

wow- couldn't find anything about the 10 year old but in 2008

WESTFIELD, Mass. (AP) � An 8-year-old boy died after accidentally shooting himself in the head while firing an Uzi submachine gun under adult supervision at a gun fair.

The boy lost control of the weapon while firing it Sunday at the Machine Gun Shoot and Firearms Expo at the Westfield Sportsman's Club, police Lt. Lawrence Vallierpratte said.

The boy, Christopher Bizilj of Ashford, Conn., was with a certified instructor and "was shooting the weapon down range when the force of the weapon made it travel up and back toward his head, where he suffered the injury," a police statement said.

"The weapon was loaded and ready to fire," police Lt. Hipolito Nunez said. "The 8-year-old victim had the Uzi and as he was firing the weapon, the front end of the weapon went up with the backfire and he ended up receiving a round in his head."

Yes, I remember this. D�j� vu all over again.

Sad situation for all involved. All three of my kids have been shooting responsibly since they were 5 yrs old. Now 7, 11 and 14. But I don't think at any time I would have let them shoot a full auto weapon that wasn't shoulder mounted or easlily controlled. This doesn't help anything related to guns or the shoot sports. Prayers for all involved.

I have a lot of experience shooting many different automatic weapons. I have introduced quite a few people to the experience, including some fairly young shooters�.my sons started shooting these types of weapons when they were young, but they were never allowed to be the only person controlling the weapon until they were absolutely able to handle it. Even then, they were only allowed to fire weapons that were much easier to control than the mini uzi that the girl was shooting. The mini uzi is a blow back operated weapon that fires from an open bolt and has a very high rate of fire��.it is a hand full for even experienced shooters.

This "instructor" would still be alive if he had simply knelt behind this girl and held the weapon with her��.she would still have had the experience of firing it��..and he would still be alive.

Do I believe she should have been allowed to shoot the weapon��.yes, but only if an adult also had a hand on the front of the weapon to control the muzzle.

One moment of poor judgement ended one life and forever changed others.

Bamagun01: Good work on familiarizing the offspring with firearms and to use them responsibly.
The TV play is really ramping up regarding this incident!
Sad, sad, sad situation.
I am just heartsick for the instructors death and for his family - he was obviously "one of us" and we are diminished.
I think I will mourn for some more hours/days and then think about what if anything I/we can do to perhaps help the instructors family (children, wife) if he has them???
Prayers have been invoked.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Bullschidt. Uzis, like other 2nd-gen sub-guns are select-fire.

1st gen sub-guns like the M3, Sten, and Swedish K, did not. The grand-old Thompson was the exception.

Ain't it amazing that only the SF "poser" knows this? GF yerselves, if it applies.

That's a little harsh.

Good job, poser.



Travis

Google?

It's what sherp_a_knee lives on...

Gentlemen, gentlemen!
Lets take a breath and try to find a lesson here to prevent any future incidents of this type.
I simply had to turn the background TV off as the now "partial video" of this incident is everywhere.
I have fired quite a few fully automatic weapons from Tommy Guns to Uzis to MP-5's and many varieties of auto M-16's - I just don't think I would partake in sharing those experiences with a diminutive (tiny!) 9 year old girl.
Maybe I am over reacting - just so upset about this right now.
Hopefully the child will not be seriously scarred - scratch the hoping, I am praying that will be the case.
Can't bring those bullets back once expended.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Didn't need this to happen to know it's not the way to do things..

Let's say a 15 year girl old studies, then passes her written DL test - all on the same day - (mind you; zero practical behind the wheel experience)...

Would you ride shotgun (as her initial driving instructor on this maiden voyage) in a high perf sports-car?