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Re: 3 groove or more grooves best in a 264 win mag rebarrel? JohnBurns #9151187 09/03/14
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,666 Likes: 35 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,666 Likes: 35 Paradise,Alaska	No I've never seen a FA let alone a wheelgun,this schit is all "new" to me. Laughing! Too phuqqing funny,that you paid someone,to do THAT! I'm phuqqing crying,I'm laughing soooooooooo hard. Holy Schit,that is FUNNY!!!............... Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

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Re: 3 groove or more grooves best in a 264 win mag rebarrel? Big Stick #9151285 09/03/14
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,168 Likes: 16 Wyoming JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter
JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,168 Likes: 16 Wyoming	Originally Posted by Big Stick No I've never seen a FA let alone a wheelgun,this schit is all "new" to me. Laughing! Too phuqqing funny,that you paid someone,to do THAT! I'm phuqqing crying,I'm laughing soooooooooo hard. Holy Schit,that is FUNNY!!!............... Well heck hang a picture of you with a FA and some game. Opps that might be like you posting a picture of you with a sheep or you with a grizzly. Unicorns are more prevalent and more photographed. Bit of a thread drift so while we all understand you have zero FA experience how about you hang something relevant to the OP. Dead critter and a Berger. I will give you a little seed. More???? OK. Note the butt cuff. John Burns I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.

Re: 3 groove or more grooves best in a 264 win mag rebarrel? JohnBurns #9151289 09/03/14
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,666 Likes: 35 Paradise,Alaska Big Stick Campfire Kahuna
Big Stick Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 58,666 Likes: 35 Paradise,Alaska	All new to me. Laughing!.............. Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."

Re: 3 groove or more grooves best in a 264 win mag rebarrel? Big Stick #9152509 09/04/14
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dogcatcher223 Campfire Ranger D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 17,527 Colorado	Originally Posted by Big Stick Paper dies easier than anything and is a piss poor Terminal Affects Barometer. I cannot even get Bergers to kill paper reliably. I've never worked with a more finicky line of bullets.

Re: 3 groove or more grooves best in a 264 win mag rebarrel? dogcatcher223 #9152795 09/04/14
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Greenbrier Campfire Regular G Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,303	JB, Congrats on some very nice looking animals! Steve

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Re: 3 groove or more grooves best in a 264 win mag rebarrel? Greenbrier #9153498 09/04/14
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irfubar Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 20,824 Hollywood	JB, Great animals, thanks for posting!! Big Stick is a one trick pony. You will never see pic's of him with sheep, grizzly's, goats... Even though he lives in a state where those critters are abundant and tags are available over the counter. Instead he call everyone a pretender, he is the pretender. I am familiar with your hunting country, and know the trophy's you kill aren't easy to come by. Stick lives where the black bear density is higher than anywhere in the world and I believe the annual blacktail limit is five deer per a person? I suspect you get him out of his little world and he would fail miserably!! Last edited by irfubar; 09/04/14. Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.

Re: 3 groove or more grooves best in a 264 win mag rebarrel? irfubar #9153717 09/04/14
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JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,168 Likes: 16 Wyoming	Originally Posted by dogcatcher223 Originally Posted by Big Stick Paper dies easier than anything and is a piss poor Terminal Affects Barometer. I cannot even get Bergers to kill paper reliably. I've never worked with a more finicky line of bullets. You are not the only one as the design of the VLD exacerbates deficiencies in rifle barrels. Throats, crowns, and bore dimensions have to be spot on for trouble free performance. The Hybrid is more forgiving and kicks the BC even higher. You might give it a whirl if so inclined. Originally Posted by Greenbrier JB, Congrats on some very nice looking animals! Steve Originally Posted by irfubar JB, Great animals, thanks for posting!! Big Stick is a one trick pony. You will never see pic's of him with sheep, grizzly's, goats... Even though he lives in a state where those critters are abundant and tags are available over the counter. Instead he call everyone a pretender, he is the pretender. I am familiar with your hunting country, and know the trophy's you kill aren't easy to come by. Stick lives where the black bear density is higher than anywhere in the world and I believe the annual blacktail limit is five deer per a person? I suspect you get him out of his little world and he would fail miserably!! Thanks guys. John Burns I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.

Re: 3 groove or more grooves best in a 264 win mag rebarrel? JohnBurns #9153732 09/04/14
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dogcatcher223 Campfire Ranger D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 17,527 Colorado	I've never killed an animal with a Berger or Scenar, but the Scenars sure do shoot! Hoping to finally see how they do this fall.

Re: 3 groove or more grooves best in a 264 win mag rebarrel? dogcatcher223 #9153754 09/04/14
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JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,168 Likes: 16 Wyoming	Originally Posted by dogcatcher223 I've never killed an animal with a Berger or Scenar, but the Scenars sure do shoot! Hoping to finally see how they do this fall. Good luck and I bet there won't be a problem. John Burns I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.

Re: 3 groove or more grooves best in a 264 win mag rebarrel? JohnBurns #9153964 09/04/14
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OP RatherBHuntin Campfire Tracker R Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,914 Likes: 2	Thanks guys for the feedback regarding 3 groove barrels. I have read elsewhere that in a high velocity rifle, they tend to tear up thin jacketed bullets and a few of you guys seem to have confirmed that. I am getting a 3 grove for my 308 hunting rifle shooting 165 ballistic tips and suspect it won't be a problem, but in my 264 win mag, I think it's not the right choice, especially if I shoot the VLD hunting bullets. Thanks again for the feedback.

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Re: 3 groove or more grooves best in a 264 win mag rebarrel? JohnBurns #9154773 09/05/14
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one horn Campfire Regular O Joined: May 2006 Posts: 739 Custer,Mi	JB, Have you tried the 6.5mm 140 hybrid on game? Politicians and Diapers both need to be changed often, and for the same reason!

Re: 3 groove or more grooves best in a 264 win mag rebarrel? Hondo64d #9154814 09/05/14
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pointer Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,671 Indiana	Originally Posted by Hondo64d My very limited personal experience with Scenars (only a couple of animals) along with what you and Pat have said has lead me to believe that they are much harder than the Bergers and impacting bone is in order to get much damage out of them. That a good assessment on the Scenars? John FWIW, I used the 139gr Scenar on 4 pronghorns last year. No problem getting full penetration through the shoulders, which I realize is not much of a test. In relation to your question, the shots that landed in softer spots definitely opened and did plenty of damage. My limited opinion was that they were very similar to the results I've seen with a 30-06 and 165gr bullets. Due to vareity of reasons, I was launching them pretty slow (~2600fps) out of my 260 Rem. So, my limited experience leads me to believe that the Scenars don't need bone to work well.

Re: 3 groove or more grooves best in a 264 win mag rebarrel? Big Stick #9157057 09/06/14
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JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,168 Likes: 16 Wyoming	Originally Posted by one horn JB, Have you tried the 6.5mm 140 hybrid on game? Not yet. I got a few standard 140gr VLDs to use up first. Originally Posted by Lil Fish Should have taken the hint. John Burns I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.

Re: 3 groove or more grooves best in a 264 win mag rebarrel? JohnBurns #9157446 09/06/14
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one horn Campfire Regular O Joined: May 2006 Posts: 739 Custer,Mi	I've got a pretty good stash of VLDs which one of my 264s does very well with. My other 264 can't seem to make friends with the VLD and I'm considering a try with hybrids. Politicians and Diapers both need to be changed often, and for the same reason!

Re: 3 groove or more grooves best in a 264 win mag rebarrel? one horn #9158081 09/06/14
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JohnBurns Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 12,168 Likes: 16 Wyoming	Originally Posted by one horn I've got a pretty good stash of VLDs which one of my 264s does very well with. My other 264 can't seem to make friends with the VLD and I'm considering a try with hybrids. Well worth a try. The Hybrid is more forgiving and has a slight bump up in the BC. John Burns I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.

Re: 3 groove or more grooves best in a 264 win mag rebarrel? JohnBurns #9158455 09/06/14
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Shodd Campfire Regular S Joined: May 2014 Posts: 1,122	I have to admit that I have never until this thread ever in my life seen Stick resort to window licking and sit his kcunt on the couch. Shod The 6.5 Swede, Before Gay Was Ok

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