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Ruger for me. Here's the .300WM Hawkeye I got this year. Ruger replaced the original stock free because it was a display model and had dings in it. Nice trigger and shoots great.
Coyote Hunter - NRA Patriot Life, NRA Whittington Center Life, GOA, DAD - and I VOTE!
No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's.
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The stainless rugers with walnut stocks are pretty damn nice...
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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When I die I hope I don't start voting democrat.
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The stainless rugers with walnut stocks are pretty damn nice... Call me crazy, but I like them too: However, an EW in a good micky edge is pretty skookum too ...: The Ruger all weather isn't too bad in it's factory synthetic either:
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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You and coyote hunter shouldn't count in the voting process. You are both way too biased . I vote either Ruger 77 or Winchester model 70. Now what was the question again???
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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You and coyote hunter shouldn't count in the voting process. You are both way too biased . I vote either Ruger 77 or Winchester model 70. Now what was the question again??? LOL, I own 1 Winchester and I do like it. No rifle fits me as well as a Ruger 77 MKII or Hawkeye though.
When I die I hope I don't start voting democrat.
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The Ruger stock has always had the best ergo's of any I've ever held. Subjective for many though.
I do like Ruger and probably wouldn't look elsewhere until they gave me a reason to.
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You and coyote hunter shouldn't count in the voting process. You are both way too biased . I vote either Ruger 77 or Winchester model 70. Now what was the question again??? LOL, I own 1 Winchester and I do like it. No rifle fits me as well as a Ruger 77 MKII or Hawkeye though. Heath. You must be built like a baboon.... . Hope your football season goes great this year!!
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Thick chest, long arms, no neck describes me. We are 4-0 so far. We will have a good test this week with 2 starters out against a good team so we will see.
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Rugers made of cheap castings that require the action be beat on with a rubber hammer to straighten them at the factory(See Stuart Otteson) and they are shaped like a brick. The action is rough as cob and the rings almost always need to be lapped to prevent bad ring marks due to the actions being out of whack. The winchester has a clubby stock, but is much better made. I vote Winchester.
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Rugers made of cheap castings that require the action be beat on with a rubber hammer to straighten them at the factory(See Stuart Otteson) and they are shaped like a brick. The action is rough as cob and the rings almost always need to be lapped to prevent bad ring marks due to the actions being out of whack. The winchester has a clubby stock, but is much better made. I vote Winchester. LMAO!!!!
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Rugers made of cheap castings that require the action be beat on with a rubber hammer to straighten them at the factory(See Stuart Otteson) and they are shaped like a brick. The action is rough as cob and the rings almost always need to be lapped to prevent bad ring marks due to the actions being out of whack. The winchester has a clubby stock, but is much better made. I vote Winchester. LMAO!!!! I like both rifles for different reasons, but the above statement has me chuckling and giggling on the floor too.
It's official. I missed the selfie deadline so I'm Maser's sock puppet because rene and the Polish half of the fubar twins have decided that I am.
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I have a Classic stainless 30-06 and a Ruger MKII stainless .243 with a takeoff laminate stock with the same dimensions as a Hawkeye walnut stock. I'd take the Ruger. IF the plastic stocks have the same dimensions as a Hawkeye walnut/laminate that would be fine with me. If they don't I'd get the laminate stock (yes they are heavier). The M70 classic is smoother and has an adjustable trigger. With the new M70 trigger it doesn't have a real advantage other than being smoother IMO.
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I have owned both:
Winchester M70 EW in .308 Winchester purchased new in early 2010 was a great shooter, the action was as smooth as any rifle I've ever owned. The new MOA trigger was as close to perfect as possible. I wish I still had that one. I traded for a M70 EW in 7mm-08 in 2011. Not as smooth and nowhere near as accurate. The trigger was mushy at best and would not adjust to an acceptable level. I'm glad it's gone. I have witnessed another since then that had the same problems.
Ruger M77 Mark II Stainless rifles that I have owned, and there have been many, have all shot good enough for a hunting rifle and some have been exceptionally accurate. Almost all needed a little trigger work, which over the years I learned how to make the factory trigger work very well (in about thirty to forty-five minutes). I never had to bed the action to get them to shoot as long as I got the action screws properly torqued and relieved the mag box a little. I wish I still had one or two of those rifles.
Having said all the above, I am not a fan of the Hawkeye stainless (don't like the finish) but I would favor the Hawkeye or especially the Mark II by a large margin over the Extreme Weather. They are rock solid, have an open trigger that can be worked, have a better accuracy record (with me anyway) and were made in the USA by an American company. For what it's worth, there is my opinion..........
If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice.
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Never tried Winchester ended up with a Ruger and like it quite a bit. That rifle is built like a tank and should last a lifetime. It did require me to bed it and free float it before I got "great" results! I'm thoroughly happy with it.
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I think I'd take the Winchester. I like B&C stocks, and I like the fact that you can at least run sloped rails etc on a Winchester. With a Ruger you are pretty much stuck with their 0 MOA ring system. There have been a few aftermarket attempts at getting around the Ruger system, but they sit the scope up way too high.
If shooting long distance isn't your hobby, then I guess you could flip a coin.
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Never tried Winchester ended up with a Ruger and like it quite a bit. That rifle is built like a tank and should last a lifetime. It did require me to bed it and free float it before I got "great" results! I'm thoroughly happy with it. esox, I'm glad to see you got that rifle shooting damn good. Well done!!
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I'll bet the OP is really confused by now. This thread has a teeter totter effect ..He's probably already bought a SS Rem 700 mountain rifle by now
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I'll bet the OP is really confused by now. This thread has a teeter totter effect ..He's probably already bought a SS Rem 700 mountain rifle by now Yeah, kinda like asking which is the better cartridge, 30-06 or .270........
If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice.
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