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That was a parody of your theory on suppressors making guns Louder

I never said that either.

And I didn't say that.

And I know I never said that.

So you shot yourself with your 1911?

We know that you didn't say those things. We did.....duh.

But when we said them we were making fun of you, because of what you DID say about suppressors.

Not the gun's fault as such but the 1911 is much safer being a single action with a grip and thumb safety. Unless the gun is cocked it can't fire and when it is cocked it is locked.

Look I don't hate Glocks and people have a right, that I support, to own Glocks it's just that Glocks are unsafe guns and that's that.

If I decided to own a polymer gun and I have thought about it I like the FN FNX, possibly the Ruger SR45, or one of the Sig new striker models.

DERBY, this is what you said


A word of caution if the purpose is to reduce the noise of a rifle, most likely a .223, inside of a building one would have to use sub-sonic ammo in order for the suppressor to be of much of an advantage.

And this


A rifle using standard velocity ammo with a suppressor tend to be louder than without the suppressor.


Then you said this

Inside of a building the noise with suppressor is even louder.

And then this

I asked a retired military sniper why that is so and he said the suppressor reduces noise down range but blows the noise back at the shooter.

Glocks are no more "unsafe" then Sig Sauers, or DA revolvers

That's probably true. Because of the guns poor safety design it does require, it would seem, extra care in the safety area. It would also seem that younger people who have grown up with a plethora of modern pistols that weren't available to us old timers brought up on the 1911 would have a different safety mind set than us old timers.

Nope but I'm used to the operation of the 1911 a single action auto. I'm not use to the more modern double action autos that rely strictly on a double action heavy trigger pull for safety. To the best of my knowledge there were no striker fired autos in my day.

but im guessing there were loads of double action revolvers....same principle...

i dont care for Glocks but lack of a safety aint the reason....i just dont care for how they feel in my hand...

Umm, so you're saying the adage to keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire is a new theory?

derby doesn't spread some extra dumb-ass on his pancakes this morning.




Travis

Yup and I stand by what I did say. There are a lot of you tube videos out there that back up what I have said. I found one where someone was firing auto handguns inside the house to see how load they would be and the guns were load. Hickok45 was firing a full auto M-4 5.56 outdoors with a suppressor and he finally put ears back on because it was so load. He also fired Remington Model 700 .223 with a suppressor and did fire that without his ears but it was loud too.

If all I had for experience was you tube videos I might be skeptical to but suppressors are now legal in Montana and I have been to our range when people were using suppressors and it blew me away as to how load the guns were with suppressors. Autos firing sub sonic ammo such as the .45 Auto can be very quiet with a suppressor but rifles not so much. It appears that a suppressor will reduce noise by about 30 to 40 db which will still put super sonic ammo well over 100 db which will still destroy your hearing.

A suppressor on a weapon firing super sonic ammo inside an enclosed area is not going to reduce the noise level sufficiently enough to prevent hearing loss or damage.

I don't care what you guys do it's your hearing not mine. I'm just trying to help prevent hearing loss.

Double action revolvers tend to have very heavy double action trigger pulls usually in the 12 to 15 pound range. My wife's model 34 kit gun has to have a trigger pull in the 8 to 10 pound range maybe even heavier.

I understand the double action trigger pull on a Glock is around 5.5 pounds which is pretty light if that's the case for that to be the safety on pistol. I would not want a double action revolver to have that light of pull in double action.

You said that a suppressor makes the gun louder than without it. Show us the videos DD.

You're too stupid to know how stupid you are.

That's not a new theory but having to worry about how one holster's an auto is pretty new at least to a 1911 shooter. I've never had to worry about my 1911 firing accidentally as I put a cocked and locked 1911 into it's holster. I don't think the Glock has a grip safety either but I could be wrong.

Blue, I just watched both of those videos.

You can distinctly tell the difference between a suppressed rifle and one unsuppressed, just as most of is already know. DERBY needs to not watch so much Hollywood


DERBYDUDE

Yes, the Glock trigger pull is standard at 5.5 pounds. However, unless you depress the toggle on the trigger, you can pull until the cows come home and it won't go off, the pull weight is insidnicifant, the fact that a Glock will not fire unless you pull the trigger is not

Just call up you tube there tons of them out there. To me at least the guns did seem louder when super sonic ammo was used.

I'm glad I'm too stupid to know how stupid I am because at 67 I still have plenty of hearing left.