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You only trim them once, and since it's 270 WIN, it feels good.
I'm sorry. It's an irrational thing, I know.
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Bob, you're mighty grumpy this morning. southtexas: Geez....I said it was a good cartridge! I mean, the OP asked why it doesn't get much attention. All I did was explain why I have had a couple (from when it was first introduced so it ain't spot news to me)and completely ignored it the past 30 years. Hell....at least I used the damned thing to form an opinion.
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southtexas: Geez....I said it was a good cartridge!
Yeah, there is a 25-06 IN every 270 Win.
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All you .257 haters better hope Berger and Nosler don't introduce a Hyb Hunter or a LRAB(both are rumored to, btw). Cause if so, you'll be eating lots of crow! Imagine a 115 grainer with a .550 BC exiting a 257 Weatherby spout at 3400 fps!!! Ohh, the possibilities.
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? weather....who?? BTW - I'm not a 25 cal hater. means I was jokin!!
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GACK! GACK GACK GACK! Snoorrrrtttttt....GACK!
Just one of the bestest deer cartridges around along with at least fifty other contenders.
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All you .257 haters better hope Berger and Nosler don't introduce a Hyb Hunter or a LRAB(both are rumored to, btw). Cause if so, you'll be eating lots of crow! Imagine a 115 grainer with a .550 BC exiting a 257 Weatherby spout at 3400 fps!!! Ohh, the possibilities. The problem with a 115 or 120 grain LRAB is the standard 10-twist. Bryan Litz's newish revalation about BC related to optimized twist rates would imply anyone with a 10-twist .257 barrel will have difficulty getting published BC rates. Me, I don't give a [bleep] about BC. I prefer to move my feet to get within reasonable shooting range before touching off a shot. And I have a 25-06. It's a very boring rifle that will shoot anything it likes lights out and anything it doesn't like almost as well. I gave up on "load development" for her because I would have to shoot a lot of rounds before a statistically significant difference appeared, and they all shoot very well. Now she's just a hunting rifle. Probably just the way every rifle should be!
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southtexas: Geez....I said it was a good cartridge!
Yeah, there is a 25-06 IN every 270 Win. j, Wasn't directing comment at you. Just happened tohit the "reply" button on your post.
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I have shot all of my best bucks with a 25-06 using 117 gr Hornady Interloct on top of 54 gr H4831. I prefer to use it from a tree stand as it has good range and is very accurate.
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That's how we hunt too.
I like to hunt in the woods too so my shots are so short the rifle is really trivial a good light gathering scope is more important really.
I've got nothing against a .25-06, just bought a .270 first and of the many other rifles I've accumulated just haven't found the right combo to end up with a .25
I never meant my anecdotal comment about my friend to disparage the .25 just passing on what he said, and he had the experience to comment.
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The problem with a 115 or 120 grain LRAB is the standard 10-twist. Bryan Litz's newish revalation about BC related to optimized twist rates would imply anyone with a 10-twist .257 barrel will have difficulty getting published BC rates.
And some of us are fighting old screwball twist rifles. The one I'm planning to hunt turns out to have a 1 in 11" barrel. So far it's not keyholing, but it shot 115gr Ballistic Silvertips with so-so accuracy. I'll try 110gr AB's, and if need be, 100gr Partitions.
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Took my first deer with a 270 in 1961. Got my first 2506 and '64. I have used them both a lot since then. if there's any difference on a deer between a 270 with a 130 grain and a 2506 with a similarly constructed 120 grain, I have never been able to see it. the only difference is the recoil of the 2506 ( or a 257AI) is such that I can watch the impact of the bullet. that's a significant advantage in my opinion. Bob, you're mighty grumpy this morning. "I can watch the impact of the bullet." Never owned a 25-06 but I owned a 270. I could not watch bullet impact with my 270. Is there really truly that much difference? Was it just the rifle you had the 25 chambered in? Your claim is very interesting.
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Our God reigns. Harrumph!!! I often use quick reply. My posts are not directed toward any specific person unless I mention them by name.
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I currently have two rifles in the 25-06. Both shoot bug-holes with the 110 AB. Combined I have taken 2 elk, 14 Mule deer (longest at just under 400 yards) and over 100 white tail. Oh yes, they have also taken black buck and axis as well. Rarely have something move after it's been hit other than to go straight down. The 25-06 is a boring, dull and totally effective cartridge as stated by others above. Probably the reason it seems to be ignored. I mean, c'mon, who wants a cartridge you don't need to tinker with while reloading or finding a factory round that shoots well?
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Bear, is the 25-06 your go to elk rifle? I made the switch to the 25-06 a while back, love the round, lots of opinions on whether it's adequate for elk. I suspect it surely is with proper placement.
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I had one in a Sendero some years back and it was so boringly accurate with just about any bullet that I sold it because their was no challenge shooting it.
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I am a gun loonely and have been a .25 cal fan for several years on SW GA Whitetails , usually inside 275 yards and < 225 lbs. I bought a .25 wissum Win Coyote lite the year they came out,the gun is very accurate, lite and handles ,points like my nickle steel 16 ga mod 12 ! I later bought a 53'mod 70 with a Shilen barrel very nice syn stock,Rimrock. The gun is even more accurate, a true 1/2 inch gun. My favorite load in both guns are tipped with 110 gr accu bombs. or the 115 gr Bergers. The only change I can see over my 308 and 30-06 is the whitetails do a little rodeo buck or dance before falling out, my 308 cal deer were usually BANG FLOP, No 25 cal deer have gone over 30 yards and most were 3 step max. No lost nor trail track.I shoot a lot so I take my time and shoot em right. very best on a great Cal. I will sell the .25wssm as I just do not need 2 ,25 cals plus the fact that my Favorite bolt guns are pre 64 Mod 70's. very best WinPoor
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I always considered the .25-06 an oddball, over-bore, inefficient and completely stupid cartridge; a .257 Weatherby wannabe pretender hoping nobody notices it's lack of a belt and double radiused shoulder. Of course this from a man who is on his third .257 Roberts Ackley Improved, probably the finest, best balanced, most efficient .25 bore cartridge ever conceived. Nothing surpasses it. It glimmers in the sunlight like the Holy Grail, beaming rays of The Wisdom of Ackley throughout a world darkened by magnumitis.
Then one day I was bored, completely at a loss for something to do. So I loaded the pickup with my bulk and headed off to get some KFC for lunch. At least that's what I told the wife. I stopped first at the gun shop and bought a Remington 783 in .30-06 Springfield. It's Remington's new 788 offering all gussied up with a horrible plastic flex-o-matic stock equipped with vestigial bedding pillars resembling something that fell out of an old lamp where the cord passed through. But it has a barrel with a Savage type nut, and a clone of the Savage trigger. I couldn't resist - such a contraption is ripe for tinkering, and I am a tinkerer.
In a moment where I had too much left over Social Security money, I ordered a nice new Criterion Barrel from Northland Shooter Supply, and as a complete parting with my senses, I ordered it chambered for the .25-06 Remington. Now I have visions of Darth Vader greeting me on the Dark Side, where air conditioning has not been invented. So, in less than 14 weeks I will reassemble the rifle in .25-06, and begin the process of either going mad or discovering something good about a completely worthless cartridge. That's what passes for an open mind in my world of frenetic Irishmen practicing the art of contradiction.
P.S.: The 783 as a .30-06 shoots way better than it has any right to, something that I find as amazing as hulless popcorn.
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Whether taking an antelope at 600 yards, a whitetail at 200 yards, a muley at 400 yards or a prairie dog at 500 yards, I find that the .25-06 Remmington to be one of the most versatile and accurate mid-long range cartridges. I have a Remmington 700 BDL chambered in .25-06 that I find to be one of the most useful firearms in the USA. I would not use it against bear, elk or moose, but that's not what I hunt anyway. For antelope or deer I use a Sierra 117 GR BTSP bullet. For prairie dogs and other long-range varmints I use a Hornady 87 SP bullet.
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