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I wonder if the budget guns are hurting the sale of barrels for Encores and such, considering that you get a complete rifle for the price of a barrel.
Actually, I'm in favor of the budget concept. Having decent rifles available for a low price means beginners those with limited means will be buying them instead of the old, used guns I want.
I tried the Encore, and if I can find a good deal on a used barrel to try I will. However, if there is something I want to try for S&G I can re-barrel one of my Savage rifles cheaper than buying a new Encore barrel. I haven't quite pulled the pin on selling the Encore as I think it'll serve me well as a ML. I like the budget rifles as well, it's a good negotiating tool at the pawn shops. I have no problem letting them know I can go buy a similar rifle cheaper at brand new. It gives me a little leverage from time to time. Especially when I'm looking for a donor action and they have a M700 ADL at the pawn shop for $500 and I tell them I can go buy a new one for $297 and the let me walk out the door with it for $250 tax included.
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Oliver Winchester broke winchester in 1936 so it's safe to say Winchester been going downhill since then.... Quite a feat, since he died in 1880.
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I hardly see any m70s up here any way. I have never seen a new one in a gun shop. Most people around here carry 700s, 336s, m77s or salvages. I imagine with ruger and salvage dominating the newcomer rifle market I will never see an xpr either.
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What calibers is it being offered in?
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I don't blame the "market" a bit for these guns.
The companies have jacked the prices of their flagship models up so much that they've priced themselves out of the common man's pocket book.
Last I checked, BDLs were selling for dang near 50% more than they were a few short years ago. I haven't checked on model 70's but my guess is they have followed as well.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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Oliver Winchester broke winchester in 1936 so it's safe to say Winchester been going downhill since then.... Quite a feat, since he died in 1880. I know isn't it...
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Oliver Winchester broke winchester in 1936 so it's safe to say Winchester been going downhill since then.... Quite a feat, since he died in 1880. I know isn't it... I learn soooooooo much here on the 'fire!
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"When Winchester died on December 11, 1880, his ownership in the company passed to his son, William Wirt Winchester, who died of tuberculosis in March of the next year. William's wife Sarah believed the family was cursed by the spirits killed by the Winchester rifle, and moved to San Jose, California and began building a chaotic mansion now known as the Winchester Mystery House with her inheritance, intending to confuse the spirits seeking revenge."
Guess the spirits caused the company to go broke 50+ years later....😃
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What calibers is it being offered in? There's nothing on the website to indicate initial offerings. Probably the usual.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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What calibers is it being offered in? There's nothing on the website to indicate initial offerings. Probably the usual. Thanks
BE STRONG IN THE LORD, AND IN HIS MIGHTY POWER. ~ Ephesians 6:10
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Initially offerd in some regulars and some surprises: .270, 30-06, 300win, and 338win. Source: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=880253748674529I wonder how much it shares parts with it's sister company's AB3?
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Looks like a pos. One of Brownings better ideas huh.. Is this one built in Portugal as well...Barrel nut like a Savage, hot damn!!! "Comes in many calibers, 270, 30-06". What a FN idiot..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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If it shoots they will sell a pile.
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Looks like a pos. One of Brownings better ideas huh.. Is this one built in Portugal as well...Barrel nut like a Savage, hot damn!!! "Comes in many calibers, 270, 30-06". What a FN idiot.. Oh boy... Why is it bad for a company to make money??? Will I buy one probaly not but to the guys and gals out their not wanting to blow $800 plus bucks I'm all for it. Not everyone is like you/you lol to most folks to include myself don't see the big deal on pre 64 I know hard for you to comprehend just like I find it hard for you to comprehend the good on these economical rifles. But I think these rifles are like economy grade compound bows they are great for beginners but in the end they will upgrade to better equipment. Me I skip it and go get the good stuff when it comes to rifles and compound bows. [bleep] Laurence you fall out of your chair if you knew what I spent on my compound bow. The last economy grade rifle I bought was my daughters weatherby vanguard youth rifle in 7-08. Hell she's killed more stuff with it than guys running around with $1500 rifles lol... I love Alaska!!!
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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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First Ive heard of it.
Last I wanna hear of it. Same here!! I'm very GLAD I don't NEED anymore 'weapons'!! Weapons covers a broader spectrum.
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If it shoots they will sell a pile. Bingo. That is why they are in the business! Look at the run on RAR and the legion of Tikka lovers. Times, they are a changing, whether we like it or not.
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If it shoots they will sell a pile. Bingo. That is why they are in the business! Look at the run on RAR and the legion of Tikka lovers. Times, they are a changing, whether we like it or not. Compare a Tikka to a NH classic or a latter Pre 64 mod 70 and the Tikka comes out ahead quality, function and accuracy wise. And I have all of the above on hand right now.
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Uh oh pre 64 guys be along soon to tell you how wrong you are. I need to get me another tikka my last one was boringly accurate I need to find one in a 25-06
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Some of the Pre 64 guys are pretty comical.
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If it shoots they will sell a pile. Bingo. That is why they are in the business! Look at the run on RAR and the legion of Tikka lovers. Times, they are a changing, whether we like it or not. Compare a Tikka to a NH classic or a latter Pre 64 mod 70 and the Tikka comes out ahead quality, function and accuracy wise. And I have all of the above on hand right now. Can I take it that you are a Tikka lover illustrating my point! All kidding aside, quality is defined differently for each individual which is why we have choices. Some like beautiful wood, others look to engraving or ornate checkering, some begin and end with benchrest accuracy, etc. As an aside, I believe you would be hard pressed to fault pre 64 model 70 function, assuming function is the actual mechanics involved in the working of the rifle to feed, fire and eject cartridges. They have their weak points, like everything else.
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