Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Yet another Vaccine-Denier is getting big airtime on the Internet... again...

Dad's been a practicing internist for about 54 years now. I wonder how many flu shots he's given his patients over all that time.

Easy question.

Getting a bad case of the flu is a possibility every year. NOT just when you hear about one that might be nasty. Flu kills folks every year and makes some of them miserable enough that death looks like a better option.

Annual flu vax will show your immune system 3/4 varieties of flu, so, even if you get the flu chances are good that it will be milder. While a newly shifted from animals flu might be really capable of visiting death on a lot of people all the years of flu vax will have exposed your immune system to a lot of variations and that can be thought of like banking immunity like lots of pennies from lots of different countries.

You immune competence does function on the "use it or lose it" principle and competence does diminish over time. But... you neglect to put the pennies in the bank you don't have and competence to lose, plus the similarities/repeats year to year do not reinforce the prior exposure (vaccination) so the competence diminishes.

Ehhhh, whatevs.

Thumbscrews are so 16th century. I've got a ridid sigmoidoscope, jumbo variety. Don't need no steenkin' thumbscrews.

Modern medicine is a very mixed bag, in my opinion, but if your doctor wants you to start chronically taking medication for something that was caused by bad diet and practices, and which can be treated by alterations in same (something that happens regularly), then you're better off staying away from him. Got a broken arm that needs setting, or you've been in an accident, got poisoned, etc.? Then doctors are the people you need.

immunizations are outside the bag?

Have you ever advised any of your father's patients to stay away from him?

Vaccine theory is fine. It's based on your body's immune response. In practice, however, there are often problems with vaccinations, stemming from various sources. This is undeniable, but is often covered up by the medical establishment in that most who are receiving their regular vaccinations don't know about the very real and serious down side potential.

Do you have evidence for this? Especially of the peer-reviewed and scientifically-valid variety?

Nothing I've said is denied by the industry. They just don't much publicize it.

Bullshit!! There is no "industry" to confirm or deny it. As I said in the OP of this thread:

So since they haven't acknowledged it, viz a viz a denial then its true?

I guess when someone said you were too scared to have lunch with me, it must have been true, since you didn't deny it.

[quote=DocRocket]
In McCoy's voice: "He's brain-dead, Jim! I'm a doctor, not a miracle-worker!!" {/quote]

There's just not much information can be stored with only three neurons. I had an English Setter like that once. Made for a lot of interesting observations.

I think it's akin to a seatbelt. I haven't needed one in the past 20 years, but that doesn't mean I don't always wear mine.

I get a flu shot every year, always have, always will. Hell, I even got a Tdap vaccine this past spring.

How to recognize a vaccine denier:
1. smells unclean
2. is a vegan
3. is anti-gun
4. if pro-gun carries a Kel Tec w/out a round in the chamber and the magazine contains Glasers
5. argues w/ Doc Rocket about medical matters
6. Agrees w/ TRH about anything

mike r

You are also driving a busload of plague-carriers 5 of every 7 days.

Not any longer, I went back to the retired life.

Why would I wish to have lunch with you?

I reiterate: