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Nothing I've said is denied by the industry. They just don't much publicize it.
Bullshit!! There is no "industry" to confirm or deny it. As I said in the OP of this thread: ... the overwhelming consensus of medical doctors & researchers, public health authorities and Infectious Diseases specialists is that the high rate of influenza vaccination over the past 20 years has been a true success and has saved lives and has done so with exemplary safety. ![[Linked Image]](http://171.67.24.121/tobacco_web/images/tobacco_ads/doctors_smoking/throat_doctors/large/camels_fresh_blue.jpg) And this has any bearing on vaccines how and why? There were myriad peer-reviewed, scientifically-valid studies on cigarettes and health maladies. Are there any on vaccines and the maladies that you allege? Can you provide proof and evidence to support your position?
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Serious ? for Doc: How important is the flu vaccine for a relatively healthy 51YO? I've never had one. I think it's akin to a seatbelt. I haven't needed one in the past 20 years, but that doesn't mean I don't always wear mine. I get a flu shot every year, always have, always will. Hell, I even got a Tdap vaccine this past spring. You are also driving a busload of plague-carriers 5 of every 7 days. Not any longer, I went back to the retired life. Good! You earned it.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Serious ? for Doc: How important is the flu vaccine for a relatively healthy 51YO? I've never had one. I think it's akin to a seatbelt. I haven't needed one in the past 20 years, but that doesn't mean I don't always wear mine. I get a flu shot every year, always have, always will. Hell, I even got a Tdap vaccine this past spring. You are also driving a busload of plague-carriers 5 of every 7 days. Not any longer, I went back to the retired life. Glad to hear that, Steelie!! Drivin' schoolbus is the most dangerous and thankless job I can freakin' imagine, next to being an engineer on a Soviet nuclear sub...
"I'm gonna have to science the schit out of this." Mark Watney, Sol 59, Mars
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Are there any peer-reviewed, scientifically-valid studies on vaccines and the maladies that you allege? Can you provide proof and evidence to support your position? I don't think even DocRocket will deny it. Ask him.
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Are there any peer-reviewed, scientifically-valid studies on vaccines and the maladies that you allege? Can you provide proof and evidence to support your position? I don't think even DocRocket will deny it. Ask him. Of course there is evidence in the medical literature of adverse reactions to vaccines. However, as I said before, and reiterated... I now re-reiterate: ... the overwhelming consensus of medical doctors & researchers, public health authorities and Infectious Diseases specialists is that the high rate of influenza vaccination over the past 20 years has been a true success and has saved lives and has done so with exemplary safety. The overwhelming consensus is that the good done by influenza vaccine so overwhelmingly outweighs its infinitesimally small risks that to not use it would be criminal. Not that this distinction will penetrate TRH's idee fixe regarding immunization.
"I'm gonna have to science the schit out of this." Mark Watney, Sol 59, Mars
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Thanks!
I was wondering when the annual TRH anti-flu-shot rant would show up. Now I've been inoculated, so am immunized against it for another year.
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"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence". John Adams
"A dishonest man can always be trusted to be dishonest". Captain Jack Sparrow
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... if your doctor wants you to start chronically taking medication for something that was caused by bad diet and practices, and which can be treated by alterations in same (something that happens regularly), then you're better off staying away from him. Did your dad prescribe medications to his patients who had bad diets and were maybe overweight? Or did he kick them out of the office and tell them to go find another doctor?
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Are there any peer-reviewed, scientifically-valid studies on vaccines and the maladies that you allege? Can you provide proof and evidence to support your position? I don't think even DocRocket will deny it. Ask him. Of course there is evidence in the medical literature of adverse reactions to vaccines. Thanks.
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I guess when someone said you were too scared to have lunch with me, it must have been true, since you didn't deny it. Why would I wish to have lunch with you?  Nice twist. Didn't use the word "wish", now did I? Frankly, the fact that anyone would be in your neck of the woods, and offer, despite any heretofore mentioned hostilities, to sit down for a lunch, - and not even get the courtesy of an acknowledgement, (even a KMA, or GFY would have been adequate in that regard), shows you to be every bit the xenophobic, paranoid schizo that is oft alluded to in many a thread. Noticing you did not deny the "scared" part....
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Has anybody on the 'Fire ever said they've met Hawkeye face-to-face?
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Only a couple of Mossad agents, one dark complected, driving a truck.
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shows you to be every bit the xenophobic, paranoid schizo that is oft alluded to in many a thread. I had no idea you weren't an American. From where do you originally hail?
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Don't thank me for the first half of my answer while you ignore the second half, it's dissimulation at best and frank lying at worst.
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Are there any peer-reviewed, scientifically-valid studies on vaccines and the maladies that you allege? Can you provide proof and evidence to support your position? I don't think even DocRocket will deny it. Ask him. Of course there is evidence in the medical literature of adverse reactions to vaccines. Thanks. Documentation of adverse reactions is not the same as what you alleged.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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But I'll thank ya' for your concise answer to my question.
Thank You
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Thanks for the reminder Doc I need to go get my flu shot!
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shows you to be every bit the xenophobic, paranoid schizo that is oft alluded to in many a thread. I had no idea you weren't an American. From where do you originally hail? My apologies, I used the term to indicate you fear anyone foreign to "you". How about anthropophobic? Again, no "scared" denial. And a change of subject. You are like a democrat when it comes to arguing. Accuse others of what you do best. Certainly anti-social.
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Documentation of adverse reactions is not the same as what you alleged. That was your question.
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shows you to be every bit the xenophobic, paranoid schizo that is oft alluded to in many a thread. I had no idea you weren't an American. From where do you originally hail? My apologies, I used the term to indicate you fear anyone foreign to "you". How about anthropophobic? Again, no "scared" denial. And a change of subject. You are like a democrat when it comes to arguing. Accuse others of what you do best. Certainly anti-social. I'm social with those who are sociable. This may come as a shock to you, but I don't have a single thought of you, positive or negative, apart from when I'm actually reading your posts.
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