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Serious ? for Doc: How important is the flu vaccine for a relatively healthy 51YO? I've never had one. You don't need a fugging flu shot. You'll be fine. Travis Yeah, especially if you vote Dimocrap.  When I was a kid I knew we were pissing off our time by getting that Polio vac.
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The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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Documentation of adverse reactions is not the same as what you alleged. That was your question. No, it was not and you know that very well.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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It happens every year: 3 weeks after school starts there's a respiratory virus epidemic, and 6-8 weeks after schools starts there's a gastroenteritis epidemic. Happens everywhere, every school year. I always blame myself. I mean, who knows what I brung back from Africa.... ...sometimes I exhale extra heavily when grading papers 
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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I'm social with those who are sociable.
This may come as a shock to you, but I don't have a single thought of you, positive or negative, apart from when I'm actually reading your posts. RWE is quite sociable and a very good fellow. My wife finds his dry sense of humor absolutely hilarious.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Yeah, Mike, I'm glad you admit it's THE TEACHERS deliberately causing this stuff!! The NEA is actually a bio-terrorist organization, admit it!! It couldn't POSSIBLY be that the nose-pickin', snot-dribblin', non-handwashin' KIDS could bear any responsibility...
"I'm gonna have to science the schit out of this." Mark Watney, Sol 59, Mars
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Documentation of adverse reactions is not the same as what you alleged. That was your question. No, it was not and you know that very well. Didn't you express doubt that there are actual risks of serious consequences from flu vaccines?
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Going on two years ago, my mom took her last flu vaccine. That's because doctors have barred her from taking another, since the last one she took paralyzed her from the waist down. After much rehab, she can still barely walk with a cane. She has recently switched back to a walker. Before her paralysis, she was amazingly active and agile for her age, getting around like an average sixty year old, despite being eighty. There are real dangers associated with it, which magnify with the frequency with which you take it. Sounds like Guillian-Barre' Syndrome.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Going on two years ago, my mom took her last flu vaccine. That's because doctors have barred her from taking another, since the last one she took paralyzed her from the waist down. After much rehab, she can still barely walk with a cane. She has recently switched back to a walker. Before her paralysis, she was amazingly active and agile for her age, getting around like an average sixty year old, despite being eighty. There are real dangers associated with it, which magnify with the frequency with which you take it. Sounds like Guillian-Barre' Syndrome. Yes.
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Documentation of adverse reactions is not the same as what you alleged. That was your question. No, it was not and you know that very well. Didn't you express doubt that there are actual risks of serious consequences from flu vaccines? No. I asked you to provide peer-reviewed, scientifically-valid evidence to support your position that vaccinations are far more harmful than they are beneficial, and more so than we are being educated/told by the medical profession. Your assertion is that there is a vast conspiracy to cover up the dangers of vaccines by the medical profession. If so, there would be peer-reviewed, scientifically-valid evidence to prove that vaccines are far more dangerous than what the medical profession is touting. That is what I asked you to provide.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Going on two years ago, my mom took her last flu vaccine. That's because doctors have barred her from taking another, since the last one she took paralyzed her from the waist down. After much rehab, she can still barely walk with a cane. She has recently switched back to a walker. Before her paralysis, she was amazingly active and agile for her age, getting around like an average sixty year old, despite being eighty. There are real dangers associated with it, which magnify with the frequency with which you take it. Sounds like Guillian-Barre' Syndrome. Yes. A very rare complication, but one that I am quite well aware of and know a good bit about.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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This may come as a shock to you, but I don't have a single thought of you, positive or negative, apart from when I'm actually reading your posts.
No general concern for others? very anti-social. another Frein in the making. And by the way, since you have to toggle my posts on and off, I assume there is one other thought in there, aside from actually reading my posts.
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Doshi needs to contract influenza just once......and he'll change his tune. I'm talking about real influenza, and not one of the other myriad of other virus that roll around each winter that people get and say they have "the flu".
Fever, body aches, high fever, sweats, debilitating fatigue and a week in bed is the best that can happen. The real "flu" is no joke. Watching a loved one suffer through it will make you think really hard about the benefits of vaccines. Gee. I guess my dad, a practicing internist since about 1960, was wrong all those thousands of times he's diagnosed influenza in his patients and family members. This conversation would be much more meaningful if I had with your father, who is an MD, than with you, who has no Medical training that I am aware of. Can I assume that he is virulently anti vaccine as you are?
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
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Yeah, Mike, I'm glad you admit it's THE TEACHERS deliberately causing this stuff!! The NEA is actually a bio-terrorist organization, admit it!! It couldn't POSSIBLY be that the nose-pickin', snot-dribblin', non-handwashin' KIDS could bear any responsibility... Doc, I always find these medical discussions with non medical offspring of physicians interesting. Rarely have I encountered such opinionated people holding wildly erroneous positions on subjects they are no more qualified to comment on than the neighbor lady with blue hair down the street. The trump card is always "my father is an MD!" Great, but you're not. Dad has a vast background to draw from to form a conclusion. Be it with or contrary to Standard of Care, the position should be able to be argued on Evidence Based science and on a level commensurate with the training and education such individuals have accumulated.
"The Democrat Party looks like Titanic survivors. Partying and celebrating one moment, and huddled in lifeboats freezing the next". Hatari 2017
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." Han Solo
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Doctors' kids are notorious for this... especially the ones who wanted to follow in daddy's footsteps and couldn't cut the academic rigors. Not pointing any fingers, of course...
"I'm gonna have to science the schit out of this." Mark Watney, Sol 59, Mars
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Do you vaccinate your dogs?
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Gee. I guess my dad, a practicing internist since about 1960, was wrong all those thousands of times he's diagnosed influenza in his patients and family members. This conversation would be much more meaningful if I had with your father, who is an MD, than with you, who has no Medical training that I am aware of. Can I assume that he is virulently anti vaccine as you are? Is there any reason why Hawkeye can't invite his internist father to join the Campfire? I think the old boy might enjoy the fellowship.
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I got the shingles vaccine a month ago based upon your recommendation but I've never had the flu vaccine, in spite of my pharmacist trying to stick me with one every time she sees me.
I haven't had the flu in over 7 years. I have trepidations as to the flu shot. I don't wish for the shot causing even a mild form of it for me.
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.
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If modern medicine had anything more than an inkling of how the immune system works, they'd have a cure for allergies and all the other inflammation responses (like type 1 diabetes and psoriasis for example).
Islam is a terrorist organization.
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I get a flu shot every year, or so. I've had the flu one time and that was over twenty years ago. Knock on wood...
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Going on two years ago, my mom took her last flu vaccine. That's because doctors have barred her from taking another, since the last one she took paralyzed her from the waist down. After much rehab, she can still barely walk with a cane. She has recently switched back to a walker. Before her paralysis, she was amazingly active and agile for her age, getting around like an average sixty year old, despite being eighty. There are real dangers associated with it, which magnify with the frequency with which you take it. Sounds like Guillian-Barre' Syndrome. Yes. A very rare complication, but one that I am quite well aware of and know a good bit about. We lost a very close friend this past February to it, she was only 40.
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