Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire LeRoy did exit the vehicle, albeit under some degree of duress.

Those idiots put their kids in danger by refusing to comply with lawful orders.

Any other interpretation of the events are misguided at best and dishonest at the worst.

They had every right to demand they exit the vehicle. No warrant necessary.

Don't like the law? Change it. Until then, best not wander the world thinking you know it when you don't.

Yes he is. A troll is a troll, even when you happen to agree with him

Ten fo bro.

Wrong.

The purpose of the Bill of Rights was to place above majority rule certain fundamental rights, i.e., so we wouldn't need to garner a majority vote in order simply to retain our fundamental rights, such as to be secure in our persons against unreasonable searches and seizures. Being required to exit one's vehicle is a seizure of the person, and requires, at minimum, probable cause that a crime has occurred.

Dey bees Sumtin I tinks you fail to know. De bleck dude gits a gubment check ever month. You see that nice car, and de kids be on our dime an not be starvin.

I don't agree with you, yet I don't call you a troll.

Absolutely nothing in the Bill of Rights precludes an officer from ensuring his safety.

The Supreme Court agrees

Nor I you. But its apples and oranges. Neither of us purposefully post inflamitory stuff to get a rise out of people. And we stand behind what we say instead of pretending to have a certain viewpoint just to piss people off.

The Supreme Court also says that the Framers meant to prevent the states from outlawing abortion.

�In general, police officers who make legal traffic stops are allowed to ask passengers inside of a stopped vehicle for identification and to request that they exit a stopped vehicle for the officer�s safety without a requirement of reasonable suspicion,� police said.

And a lion will inform you he has every right to make you his lunch.

So they're wrong because you don't agree?

Can you show me where the Constitution prohibits the states from outlawing abortion?

I would believe him and take all evasive maneuvers to avoid his fangs, Hawkeye.

I'm about against abortion as you can get. But I believe the Constitution would support a person's freedom in this regard. I agree that a State has no grounds to prohibit a person from doing so.

But it really has nothing to do with an officer having the law on his side in demanding a person exit their vehicle

I dearly wish I knew the answer as to what Le Roy the dancer, will do the next time he is facing the danger of a 3 second fry from an officers taser.

I'm guessing he's not a quick learner

No big deal, just an Obama voter.

Guy reached into a backpack. Officer doesn't know what's in it. Asking someone to step out of a vehicle is not a search. If the officer started to search him without articulatable suspicion, then we are in a problem area...

Officer was even nice enough to tell him, "If you don't open this door, I will open it for you."