Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Who else admires this young woman?

If she wasn't hot it would never be news, and no, I don't.

With your medical background, I'm very surprised at the reasoning (or lack of it) behind your post. You 'assume' something that you shouldn't (about her not being a Christian). Although God "will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear", He certainly will let you suffer beyond what you can bear.

Suicide is someone trying to escape a gambling debt, or Someone who's heart was just broken by a loved one, Depression and such.These people often have ways to recover and live longer lives..

Terminal Cancer with no chance of Recovery is far from Suicide. If she ends her life while trying to keep some sort of Dignity, I'll think no less of her.

She was dealt a crap hand, she can decide when to fold.

I admire her, and her family, too. I've been involved in health care too long. I've seen the side where there is nothing that can be done, but the family insists on putting the patient through all manner of torture to "extend" his or her life. And they always manage to find a doc that's willing to take the money. In many cases, the patient is too sick to offer firm resistance, or just wants to go along. With torture? I'll be damned if I'll do that to my family. Dad got his diagnosis of terminal lung CA almost 23yrs ago. "Do everything or do nothing." A month to a year. He went home and had a beer, and died a month later, at home where he wanted to be. Not being poked, prodded, violently ill from chemo or burned by radiation. This girl's made a sound decision. Prayers for her and her family.

I'm not judging her heart; God will do that. It's very sad situation and I can empathize with her plight and even understand her decision if she is not a Christian which I expect she is not.

What unbelievers fail to grasp (and even many Christians), is that in the context of Biblical teaching, this life will be difficult; and that God allows these devastating trials and tribulations for our good, for our sanctification - refinement by fire so to speak.

I believe God allows special grace and peace to those who believe and trust in Him fully while in the deepest of valleys, particularly imminent death. How else can one explain second century saints singing hymns while being burned at the stake, or calmly being mauled to death by wild beasts in the Roman coliseums.

Lastly, taking ones life, God-given, purposely is suicide regardless of the semantics the law tags it with and the circumstances involved. Suicide is self-murder, Which I believe is morally wrong and a sin. Not an unforgivable sin but a sin nevertheless.

Furthermore, assuming she is an unbeliever, this life is all there is before an eternity of judgement. And she at her young age is intent on giving up days, or weeks (?) of her very short life wherein she might find the God who is ever ready to answer and grant her that peace, grace, and very much more.

Antlers, I provided exact reasoning. As to "not letting you suffer beyond what you can bear," that is also to my point: how do you know what you cannot bear if you end your life? That is the point of God's grace and peace to those who look to him in "those moments," as exemplified by the martyrs mentioned and countless others through time who have relied on him to the end.

Additionally, short of so-called euthanasia, there are supportive measures that do not end life but help as life ends.

I am not judging her heart or that of any others who choose this route including those who are Christians. I just hold a different view. I have a living will that should I come down with a devastating, fatal disease, I would not choose this route; however, I would not want extreme or extraordinary, costly measures either. I would do, hopefully, as a neighbor friend did before he died from melanoma, submit to experimental treatments in the hope of helping the next person.

At least die trying.

You are a complete piece of [bleep] dogchit, You [bleep] i bet you've never had someone close to you die of cancer, I lost my dad in 06 after taking care of him for 18mos while he died of brain cancer, i garauntee you have no damn;d idea the hell that brain cancer causes for people that have it, i hope you rot in hell, or get shot by some illegal, get [bleep] you self righteous piece of chit

I'm not judging her heart; God will do that. It's very sad situation and I can empathize with her plight and even understand her decision if she is not a Christian which I expect she is not.

What unbelievers fail to grasp (and even many Christians), is that in the context of Biblical teaching, this life will be difficult; and that God allows these devastating trials and tribulations for our good, for our sanctification - refinement by fire so to speak.

I believe God allows special grace and peace to those who believe and trust in Him fully while in the deepest of valleys, particularly imminent death. How else can one explain second century saints singing hymns while being burned at the stake, or calmly being mauled to death by wild beasts in the Roman coliseums.

Lastly, taking ones life, God-given, purposely is suicide regardless of the semantics the law tags it with and the circumstances involved. Suicide is self-murder, Which I believe is morally wrong and a sin. Not an unforgivable sin but a sin nevertheless.

Furthermore, assuming she is an unbeliever, this life is all there is before an eternity of judgement. And she at her young age is intent on giving up days, or weeks (?) of her very short life wherein she might find the God who is ever ready to answer and grant her that peace, grace, and very much more.

I'm not judging her heart; God will do that. It's very sad situation and I can empathize with her plight and even understand her decision if she is not a Christian which I expect she is not.

What unbelievers fail to grasp (and even many Christians), is that in the context of Biblical teaching, this life will be difficult; and that God allows these devastating trials and tribulations for our good, for our sanctification - refinement by fire so to speak.

I believe God allows special grace and peace to those who believe and trust in Him fully while in the deepest of valleys, particularly imminent death. How else can one explain second century saints singing hymns while being burned at the stake, or calmly being mauled to death by wild beasts in the Roman coliseums.

Lastly, taking ones life, God-given, purposely is suicide regardless of the semantics the law tags it with and the circumstances involved. Suicide is self-murder, Which I believe is morally wrong and a sin. Not an unforgivable sin but a sin nevertheless.

Furthermore, assuming she is an unbeliever, this life is all there is before an eternity of judgement. And she at her young age is intent on giving up days, or weeks (?) of her very short life wherein she might find the God who is ever ready to answer and grant her that peace, grace, and very much more.

Not trying to pick a fight, just curious. For those who oppose her making her decision, do you also oppose pain meds? Wouldn't the pain be God's plan as well? Is it OK to medicate to unconsciousness but not death? Where exactly is that line? Should they just gut it up and refuse all medications?

I'll take a guess and say your a Christian.

Well im sure as hell not a muslim, but i dont attend any church regularly. I do however believe there is a god, and I dont believe that he wants any of his children to suffer in this way.