Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire A troubling part of the Eric Frein arrest.

yep, really.

I understand that. We all have a right to our own opinion. Somewhere along the line, our life experiences shape our opinions and how we see things. My experience with police has rarely been negative.

I don't give a sheet that they roughed him up a little when they caught him, what pisses me off is that they brought out a 1000 cops from everywhere in the country and hunted him till they found him and they don't do that for the ordinary folks when they get murdered. It's just another classic case of "us" vs. the "ordinary" folks. Coppers think one of their lives is more valuable than yours.

Maybe it's just me, but ever since JO left it seems safariman has been on a mission to be crowned the campfires reigning attention whore...

Without taking sides there a lots of cases of criminal activity by LE.

Brace yourself. Life is full of "incredible" experiences.

I understand that very well. I also agree with ironbender that safariman has become the village idiot around here, and I can certainly see how violating insurance regulations (and likely state/federal laws regarding the elderly and securities), and his gun business across state lines without an FFL can give him a certain paranoia about law enforcement. It must make for interesting family gatherings, to say the least.

the job is way above many peoples skill set!

"situation"

I have generally enjoy reading your posts, your logic, and how you lay out an argument without all the drama.

I'll preface my post with the fact that my husband is quite intelligent and far from paranoid. He doesn't have anything to be paranoid about. Please understand there is no gun business and no violation of insurance regulations going on. The situation with the state of Oregon is in the distant past.

I think there is a big difference between being paranoid and having a dislike about/for something, IMHO.

The gun business stopped, finally, because he was told openly that what he was doing was quite likely not legal and could easily land the two of you in very hot water. It would still be going on if several people hadn't laid out to him that if he continued that it was extremely likely that someone was going to call ATF on him and you two would be receiving a knock on the door from some rather unfriendly people who would want to see a lot of things and wouldn't take "no" or any excuse for an answer.

The issue in Oregon may have been in the past, but it's very unlikely that those specific cases were the only time he made unsuitable recommendations or dealt with investments that he did not have an appropriate license to be reviewing or recommending their replacement. A very quick search shows that he never held any securities license. Therefore, every time he reviewed any financial documents with a prospective client that contained stocks, bonds, or mutual funds - including IRAs, 401ks, or 403bs - he was breaking the law. He didn't have the credentials or licenses to review those documents or to make any recommendations about changes in or replacements to those investments. Ask yourself how many times he did this, or ask him. The rules are out there for viewing and they are very clear. I'd suspect that those cases in Oregon were just the ones that had someone file a complaint, and not the only ones in which he broke the rules, knowingly, in order to receive a healthy commission check.

The constant presentation of himself as an "estate planner" (which is a very specific license and qualification, generally requiring an accounting or law background) is yet another example of misrepresentation. He was an insurance agent and worked for one of the worst insurance companies in the nation, one that has a long history of having and training agents that intentionally break insurance regulations and state and federal laws (and rewarding them for those transgressions, until they are caught). He broke those rules and was rewarded for them, and then in Oregon tried to come up with a very poor excuse and defense as to why he did it, or why he shouldn't be punished (it wasn't his fault, the other person wanted to do it, he's sick, he's had a change of heart, wanting to move, he's a good Christian, he's broke, etc.; the same excuses he's used here every time he gets caught ripping someone off).

The ethics involved are the same as when you try to justify taking a shot you shouldn't, ass-shoot a bear, then leave it to suffer all night and finally convince a friend to come out and finish it off (a possible game law violation in Washington). You do all this, and they you brag about it as some kind of Herculean feat, saying that only you and only your oddball wildcat magnum would have been capable of creating that kind of fiasco (which, perhaps, is true). Then, when called on those things, you revert right back to the same excuses (sick, broke, good Christian, etc.) as a rationale.

The drama is what your husband brings on himself and what he seems to live for. The drama is a sickness and chronic case of breaking rules whenever you can see a benefit for yourself, regardless of who or what gets hurt along the way because only you (meaning him) matter and the ends (getting what he wants) always justify any means. When caught, revert back to the "I'm sick; I'm broke; I'm just a poor, good Christian" line of defense. I'd suspect this has been the case for him for many years.

There's no drama here in my post. Those things are fact. You may not like them, but facts they are.

This thread and many others are simply attention whoring by him. Ironbender gave sound advice: he needs to get off the computer, read a book, go fishing, watch TV, do SOMETHING else rather than continue to draw attention to himself. The more attention he draws, the more likely it is that someone will call some very unwanted attention to his dealings (especially regarding the gun business he was running as the statute of limitations on that is quite long).

Sometimes, you just have to know when to put the shovel down and stop digging.