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It only took 3 percent then.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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It only took 3 percent then. Well count me in. This is a really big country. How many drones do they have?
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I think we should just give up. Country's not worth fighting for. That appears to be the universal opinion. It's just one that I don't happen to hold. Good thing we weren't around in 1776. There were huge numbers of "Americans" that held the same viewpoint during the Revolution. But they (of course) stood on the sidelines while the men slaughtered Brits. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I think we should just give up. Country's not worth fighting for. That appears to be the universal opinion. It's just one that I don't happen to hold. Good thing we weren't around in 1776. There were huge numbers of "Americans" that held the same viewpoint during the Revolution. But they (of course) stood on the sidelines while the men slaughtered Brits. Travis Maybe we'll have to find out how many men there are in this country.
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Maybe we'll have to find out how many men there are in this country. You won't discover that until things are worth fighting for. And we're a long ways from that. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Maybe we'll have to find out how many men there are in this country. You won't discover that until things are worth fighting for. And we're a long ways from that.
Travis You first gotta be willin'. How many are?
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But we've already tried the whole limit-the-scope-of-government-by-writing-words-on-paper thing. It doesn't work. I don't think your thesis holds water, my friend. The 13th Amendment does seem to have put an end to slavery. The 22nd Amendment seems to have pretty well ended people being elected to more than two terms as President. And the 24th Amendment put an end to the power of government to impose poll taxes. Heller and McDonald seriously curtailed the ability of government to ban handguns. While I'll agree that turning off the money supply is probably one of the most effective means of limiting government, Constitutional amendments and Supreme Court decisions do change and limit the course of government actions. Still, anyone who has tried to keep pigs penned up will immediately recognize the difficulties involved in keeping government within bounds.
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Barak has made the best point. The best revolt we could platform is an economic embargo to the government. A mass, nation wide boycott of paying taxes would be the most peaceful method on behalf of the people; although no telling how the politicos would react when their personal power dried up from lack of funds.
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You first gotta be willin'. How many are? If you need an idea of how many people might be fed up, use your own examples. Then try and apply it to everybody you know. Would they care? Would they be indifferent? Would they care but not enough to act? Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Barak has made the best point. The best revolt we could platform is an economic embargo to the government. A mass, nation wide boycott of paying taxes would be the most peaceful method on behalf of the people; although no telling how the politicos would react when their personal power dried up from lack of funds. Laughin'... Barak is an idiot. It will take much more than that to influence those in power. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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You first gotta be willin'. How many are? If you need an idea of how many people might be fed up, use your own examples. Then try and apply it to everybody you know. Would they care? Would they be indifferent? Would they care but not enough to act?
Travis Not when the majority voted for Bammy. You want a revolution? Cut off their freebies.
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Only the most statist, fascist, socialist-communist among us could not think this government is in need of reform.
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You first gotta be willin'. How many are? If you need an idea of how many people might be fed up, use your own examples. Then try and apply it to everybody you know. Would they care? Would they be indifferent? Would they care but not enough to act? Travis I know the answer, mine was a generally rhetorical question, more musing than anything.
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Barak has made the best point. The best revolt we could platform is an economic embargo to the government. A mass, nation wide boycott of paying taxes would be the most peaceful method on behalf of the people; although no telling how the politicos would react when their personal power dried up from lack of funds. Laughin'... Barak is an idiot. It will take much more than that to influence those in power. Travis Whatever your opinion of Barak is, economic revolt is the most peaceful method of revolt available.
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Not when the majority voted for Bammy. You want a revolution? Cut off their freebies.
Define "freebies." Travis
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Whatever your opinion of Barak is, economic revolt is the most peaceful method of revolt available.
Whatever your opinion of 'flave is, you're going to have a tough [bleep]' time finding a government that was overturned by "economic revolt." Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Only the most statist, fascist, socialist-communist among us could not think this government is in need of reform. Yes, the government does need reform, but the question is, in what direction. It seems that many (on both sides) want it to go only their way (more to the left or more to the right). Compromise and agreement on common principals is not in the cards. This could lead to violence and anarchy and, no good result.
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Not when the majority voted for Bammy. You want a revolution? Cut off their freebies. Which will be the only thing whatsoever that may actually start this "civil war" that they're dreaming about. Until then, all of the warmongers are simply pissing in the wind. The vast majority of the great unwashed masses will continue going along with doing what they're told, until such time as the prospect of armed revolt becomes the more attractive option for them. As long as they have the Kardassians, the NFL, Nascar, the newest comic book movie, and anonymous internet forums to vent their frustration on, then nothing will happen.
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Welfare, phones, t.v.'s, extended unemployment payments, about unlimited access to "disability" entitlements, free ride services for docs and shopping, free bus rides with a token, food bank, free turkeys for Thanksgiving delivered to their door, utilities assistance payments,,,,,and etc.
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