24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 8 of 11 1 2 6 7 8 9 10 11
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 23,453
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 23,453
It only took 3 percent then.


Originally Posted by Mannlicher
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,076
S
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
S
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,076
Originally Posted by 4ager
It only took 3 percent then.
Well count me in. This is a really big country. How many drones do they have?


Hang on to your memories; they're better than the real thing ever was - Joe Sherlock

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Likes: 13
Campfire Sage
Offline
Campfire Sage
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Likes: 13
Originally Posted by Spud
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by Spud
I think we should just give up. Country's not worth fighting for.
That appears to be the universal opinion. It's just one that I don't happen to hold.
Good thing we weren't around in 1776.


There were huge numbers of "Americans" that held the same viewpoint during the Revolution.

But they (of course) stood on the sidelines while the men slaughtered Brits.



Travis


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,076
S
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
S
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,076
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Spud
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by Spud
I think we should just give up. Country's not worth fighting for.
That appears to be the universal opinion. It's just one that I don't happen to hold.
Good thing we weren't around in 1776.


There were huge numbers of "Americans" that held the same viewpoint during the Revolution.

But they (of course) stood on the sidelines while the men slaughtered Brits.



Travis
Maybe we'll have to find out how many men there are in this country.


Hang on to your memories; they're better than the real thing ever was - Joe Sherlock

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Likes: 13
Campfire Sage
Offline
Campfire Sage
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Likes: 13
Originally Posted by Spud
Maybe we'll have to find out how many men there are in this country.


You won't discover that until things are worth fighting for. And we're a long ways from that.



Travis


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
IC B2

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,076
S
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
S
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,076
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Spud
Maybe we'll have to find out how many men there are in this country.


You won't discover that until things are worth fighting for. And we're a long ways from that.



Travis
You first gotta be willin'. How many are?


Hang on to your memories; they're better than the real thing ever was - Joe Sherlock

Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 11,116
Likes: 2
D
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
D
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 11,116
Likes: 2
Quote
But we've already tried the whole limit-the-scope-of-government-by-writing-words-on-paper thing. It doesn't work.


I don't think your thesis holds water, my friend. The 13th Amendment does seem to have put an end to slavery. The 22nd Amendment seems to have pretty well ended people being elected to more than two terms as President. And the 24th Amendment put an end to the power of government to impose poll taxes. Heller and McDonald seriously curtailed the ability of government to ban handguns.

While I'll agree that turning off the money supply is probably one of the most effective means of limiting government, Constitutional amendments and Supreme Court decisions do change and limit the course of government actions.

Still, anyone who has tried to keep pigs penned up will immediately recognize the difficulties involved in keeping government within bounds.


Be not weary in well doing.
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,806
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,806
Barak has made the best point. The best revolt we could platform is an economic embargo to the government. A mass, nation wide boycott of paying taxes would be the most peaceful method on behalf of the people; although no telling how the politicos would react when their personal power dried up from lack of funds.


Be Polite , Be Professional , but have a plan to kill everybody you meet
-General James Mattis United States Marine Corps


Nothing is darker than a mau mau's moo moo.
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 21,810
D
djs Offline
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
D
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 21,810
Perhaps the supporters of the great Civil War herein could implore Eric Frein of NE Pennsylvania to lead the battle. Oh wait, he won't be available for the next 100+ years or so following his trial for killing a PA State Trooper. Maybe there's a lesson here.


see: http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-eric-frein-charged-terrorism-20141113-story.html

Last edited by djs; 11/17/14.
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Likes: 13
Campfire Sage
Offline
Campfire Sage
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Likes: 13
Originally Posted by Spud
You first gotta be willin'. How many are?



If you need an idea of how many people might be fed up, use your own examples. Then try and apply it to everybody you know. Would they care? Would they be indifferent? Would they care but not enough to act?



Travis


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
IC B3

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Likes: 13
Campfire Sage
Offline
Campfire Sage
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Likes: 13
Originally Posted by RichardAustin
Barak has made the best point. The best revolt we could platform is an economic embargo to the government. A mass, nation wide boycott of paying taxes would be the most peaceful method on behalf of the people; although no telling how the politicos would react when their personal power dried up from lack of funds.


Laughin'...

Barak is an idiot. It will take much more than that to influence those in power.



Travis


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 28,411
O
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
O
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 28,411
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Spud
You first gotta be willin'. How many are?



If you need an idea of how many people might be fed up, use your own examples. Then try and apply it to everybody you know. Would they care? Would they be indifferent? Would they care but not enough to act?



Travis


Not when the majority voted for Bammy. You want a revolution? Cut off their freebies.


The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.

What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,806
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,806
Only the most statist, fascist, socialist-communist among us could not think this government is in need of reform.


Be Polite , Be Professional , but have a plan to kill everybody you meet
-General James Mattis United States Marine Corps


Nothing is darker than a mau mau's moo moo.
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,076
S
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
S
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,076
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Spud
You first gotta be willin'. How many are?



If you need an idea of how many people might be fed up, use your own examples. Then try and apply it to everybody you know. Would they care? Would they be indifferent? Would they care but not enough to act?

Travis
I know the answer, mine was a generally rhetorical question, more musing than anything.

Last edited by Spud; 11/17/14.

Hang on to your memories; they're better than the real thing ever was - Joe Sherlock

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,806
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,806
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by RichardAustin
Barak has made the best point. The best revolt we could platform is an economic embargo to the government. A mass, nation wide boycott of paying taxes would be the most peaceful method on behalf of the people; although no telling how the politicos would react when their personal power dried up from lack of funds.


Laughin'...

Barak is an idiot. It will take much more than that to influence those in power.

Travis


Whatever your opinion of Barak is, economic revolt is the most peaceful method of revolt available.


Be Polite , Be Professional , but have a plan to kill everybody you meet
-General James Mattis United States Marine Corps


Nothing is darker than a mau mau's moo moo.
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Likes: 13
Campfire Sage
Offline
Campfire Sage
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Likes: 13
Originally Posted by Old_Toot

Not when the majority voted for Bammy. You want a revolution? Cut off their freebies.


Define "freebies."




Travis


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Likes: 13
Campfire Sage
Offline
Campfire Sage
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Likes: 13
Originally Posted by RichardAustin


Whatever your opinion of Barak is, economic revolt is the most peaceful method of revolt available.


Whatever your opinion of 'flave is, you're going to have a tough [bleep]' time finding a government that was overturned by "economic revolt."



Travis


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 21,810
D
djs Offline
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
D
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 21,810
Originally Posted by RichardAustin
Only the most statist, fascist, socialist-communist among us could not think this government is in need of reform.


Yes, the government does need reform, but the question is, in what direction. It seems that many (on both sides) want it to go only their way (more to the left or more to the right). Compromise and agreement on common principals is not in the cards. This could lead to violence and anarchy and, no good result.

Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 8,911
H
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
H
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 8,911
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Not when the majority voted for Bammy. You want a revolution? Cut off their freebies.


Which will be the only thing whatsoever that may actually start this "civil war" that they're dreaming about. Until then, all of the warmongers are simply pissing in the wind. The vast majority of the great unwashed masses will continue going along with doing what they're told, until such time as the prospect of armed revolt becomes the more attractive option for them. As long as they have the Kardassians, the NFL, Nascar, the newest comic book movie, and anonymous internet forums to vent their frustration on, then nothing will happen.

Last edited by HilhamHawk; 11/17/14.

While it's true that all liberals are crazy people, not all crazy people are liberals.
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 28,411
O
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
O
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 28,411
Welfare, phones, t.v.'s, extended unemployment payments, about unlimited access to "disability" entitlements, free ride services for docs and shopping, free bus rides with a token, food bank, free turkeys for Thanksgiving delivered to their door, utilities assistance payments,,,,,and etc.

Come to Louisiana, you'll love it.


The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.

What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
Page 8 of 11 1 2 6 7 8 9 10 11

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

576 members (10Glocks, 2500HD, 1minute, 1234, 222Sako, 007FJ, 60 invisible), 2,083 guests, and 1,249 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,192,778
Posts18,495,871
Members73,977
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.159s Queries: 55 (0.011s) Memory: 0.9248 MB (Peak: 1.0432 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-07 16:25:24 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS