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In an effort to get the Nation back under the second amendment, I think it's a good time with the incoming congress to push to allow vets to carry in every state like active and retired LEO's do.

Ultimately, of course, this should be the right of every citizen. But we have to fight the lies of the anti's. I think that one way to do that is to increase the data numbers. I think that with the popularity of the military right now, this is doable.

We'd have millions of more people carrying across the country, raising the statistical evidence that such a law would lower crime.

Just a thought. Happy Thanksgiving everybody!


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Shoot, I knew lots of folks in the Army that I wouldnt trust with a gun!


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Instead of adding more, why not repeal all the unconstitutional second amendment laws on the books already?

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Originally Posted by Hawk_Driver
Shoot, I knew lots of folks in the Army that I wouldnt trust with a gun!


Your trust has nothing to do with their rights.

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I would much rather see a national reciprocity for concealed carry!

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No, but just being a vet shouldnt be a reason to carry. I am in favor of everyone being able to carry. Vet doesnt mean familiar with firearms.



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If you can legally own a gun then you should be able to legally carry a gun, period.


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Originally Posted by Hawk_Driver
Shoot, I knew lots of folks in the Army that I wouldnt trust with a gun!
The Viet Nam vets will well remember the art of fragging.


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Originally Posted by Hawk_Driver
Shoot, I knew lots of folks in the Army that I wouldnt trust with a gun!


Me too!

I also know a lot of LEO's that I wouldn't trust with a gun. The idea is to make it legal for more people.


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LEO doesnt mean familiar with firearms either.

As said above, if you can legally own, you should be able to legally carry.


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Originally Posted by 700LH
Instead of adding more, why not repeal all the unconstitutional second amendment laws on the books already?


I wish!

I just don't see then doing that right off the bat.

Equating vets with LEO's, they might be able to sell.


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Originally Posted by Hawk_Driver
No, but just being a vet shouldnt be a reason to carry. I am in favor of everyone being able to carry. Vet doesnt mean familiar with firearms.



Agreed!

Being a LEO shouldn't either. But it's palatable to Democrats and the public at large. I think the argument could be made for retired vets as well thus increasing the numbers with the ultimate goal being constitutional carry for every citizen.

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Originally Posted by Steelhead
If you can legally own a gun then you should be able to legally carry a gun, period.

Agreed.
Retired LEO's or veterans shouldn't have 'special rights' that the rest of the citizens don't have. Equal rights for everyone, and 'special rights' for no one.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
If you can legally own a gun then you should be able to legally carry a gun, period.


Agreed but Congress won't do that.



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Originally Posted by Hawk_Driver
LEO doesnt mean familiar with firearms either.

As said above, if you can legally own, you should be able to legally carry.


Of course

That's the goal.

Baby steps. Win the fights we can.

I think that with the popularity of the military, this could be done, with the new congress.


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Even if Congress allowed it, too many states would over ride it anyways.


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It's not a question of allowing, it's a question of why are we disallowed.

I can exercise my 1st Amendment Rights without a test.


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Liberals, thats why.

Give them enough time and your 1st Amendment rights will be limited. Unless you agree with them.


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Originally Posted by Hawk_Driver
Even if Congress allowed it, too many states would over ride it anyways.


Not if it's federal law. If that was the case 34 a states would ban Obamacare.

Liberal's need to learn that the 14th works both ways.


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Is the sale/possession etc of Marijuana considered illegal by the Feds?


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