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of the four you have Sam, which do you think is best?
my gut tells me it'll be the Ft. Knox
but hey I could just be hungry (grin)
I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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actually the Browning is better rated for fire, but overall, the Fort Knox gives me more comfort and security. Dang thing weighs a ton.
Sam......
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What about the browning safes? I know they are not made by browning (liberty maybe?). I was looking at the sporter series on the low end (available locally) but would go up if it was worth it. Here's a pic of my Browning Safe (P.O.S) hinge, nice weld job.
Life is just one damned thing after another
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actually the Browning is better rated for fire, but overall, the Fort Knox gives me more comfort and security. Dang thing weighs a ton. thanks Sam but I'm still hungry
I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Graffunder F-Rated, nuff said.
Trump Won!
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Brown safe, not Browning. Serious safes, serious money. Highest rating "M". Grafunder excellent also, but I go with this Brown safe. Of course you should have something to put in it!
Features Model Range Contact Us HD-SERIES 7256
HEAVY-DUTY FIRE AND BURGLARY SAFE
The HD 7256 offers maximum security at max capacity. Packing a staggering 61 cubic foot capacity, this double door model 7256 has no opposition.
HD-Series 7256 Specifications: Cubic Capacity: 61 Cubic Feet Interior Dimensions: 72" H x 56" W x 25.5" D Min. Exterior Dimensions: 73" H x 57" W x 31" D Min. Weight: 2074 lbs. Priced From $5,449 - $20,353 1418 2418 4018 6018 6024 7224 7228 7256 INTERIOR CONFIGURATION
This model comes standard with the following configurations:
Interior Configuration #1
� 6 adjustable full width shelves.
$7,524
* Subtract $2,075 for non fire-rated model.
Interior Configuration #2
� 1 fixed full width shelf. � 1 adjustable full width shelf. � 3 adjustable half width shelves. � 1 full gun rack with space for 21-23 long guns.
$7,900
* Subtract $2,075 for non fire-rated model.
Interior Configuration #3
� 1 fixed full width shelf. � 1 adjustable full width shelf. � 2 full gun racks with space for 42-46 long guns.
$7,847
* Subtract $2,075 for non fire-rated model.
PROTECTION LEVEL
The first line of defense for any security safe is the strength of the material used to construct its door and walls. A substantially thick solid steel door and five robust steel walls are fundamental to the safe's ability to protect your valuables, and the primary means of preventing a determined criminal from gaining entrance.
Wall and door thickness is at the very core of a high security safe's ability to protect. This should always be your number one concern when deciding on any safe.
Class-B Rating 1/4" Body Steel 1/2" Door Steel 2" Fire-Cladding on Door 2�" Fire-Cladding on Body 1/2� solid steel door 1/4� solid steel body Fire-rated for 90 min. at 1700� Flush door frame design with overbuilt spread resistant doorframe 1� laminated, interlocked & double-welded door jamb U.L. approved high security Group 2 lock Ball bearing hard plate Double anchor locking bolt carriage design 1� hardened chrome locking bolts with anti-drive resistance 5 active and passive relocking devices 4 - 5/8� base anchor holes Class-C Rating 1/2" Body Steel 1" Door Steel 2" Fire-Cladding on Door 2�" Fire-Cladding on body All the standard features of Class-B rated safes plus:
1� solid steel door 1/2� thick solid steel body construction Ball and roller bearing hinges + $4,137
Class-F Rating 1" - Body Steel 1" - Door Steel 1/2" - Ballistic Door Armor 2" Fire-Cladding on Door 2�" Fire-Cladding on body All the standard features of Class-C rated safes plus:
1/2� ballistic door armor + $12,453
There are many great benefits that come with the Brown Safe fire protection.
+ Fire protection up to 90 min. at 1700 degrees! + Increased protection level from burglary with our solid steel core Although fire protection has the increased benefits for keeping valuables safe, removing fire protection has benefits as well.
+ Smaller wall thickness to fit in smaller spaces + Weight is usually far less than a fire safe. Weight reduction may be ideal for those looking to install a safe in an area where foundation construction may not support heavy objects. Below you can see the difference in specifications.
HD-Series 7256 Class-B WITH Fire Protection Exterior Dimensions: 77.5" H x 62" W x 36" D Weight: 4880 lbs. HD-Series 7256 Class-B WITHOUT Fire Protection Exterior Dimensions: 73" H x 57" W x 31" D Weight: 2074 lbs. REMOVE Fire Protection - $2,075 SECURITY OPTIONS
Glass Plate Relocking Device
+ $350 - Provides added burglary protection. - Increased sensitivity against forced entry attacks. - Glass plate shatters setting off relockers at an early stage in the burglary, increasing the difficulty of entry.
Silent Signal Alert
+ $375 - Triggered by either a hidden button or an alternate unlock entry code, safes equipped with the slient signal alert feature interface directly with your alarm or home automation system.
- With the silent signal feature in place, if the unfortunate situation ever arises where the safe owner is forced to open the safe against their will, the safe can be unlocked in a normal manner while an undetectable alert is secretly sent to the homes monitoring system which in turn relays a message to security authorities, immediately alerting them to the hold-up situation.
ENTRY METHOD
Choose from two high security lock types.
Electronic Push-Button Lock (included)
Traditional Dial Lock - $195
EXTERIOR COLOR FINISH
If the standard HD Bronze doesn't fit your desires, we offer several exterior color options sure to satisfy your individual style. All HD-Series safes are finished in a rugged, low-sheen, textured paint coating designed to stand up to years of abuse.
*Gloss finish is optional with additional charge. ADDITIONAL OPTIONS
The HD Series has many additional features to further customize your safe for your needs.
Gloss Paint Finish (call for quote) Left-Hinge Location Dehumidifier $150 Pedestal Riser (call for quote) Internal Power Strip w/USB $100 LED internal lighting $425 Custom Shelf Layout ( call for quote ) 3-Spoke Handle $275 Call a Brown Safe Designer at (760) 233-2293 to order your HD-Series Safe.
Phone: (760) 233-2293Support PagePrivacy PolicySite Map � 2014 Brown Safe Manufacturing, Inc. All Rights Reserved
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Safes are only as good as you pay for. If you have nice guns, get an excellent safe. Chances are, if you can get it into the basement it isn't much of a safe. You should buy bigger than you want, you won't regret it. If you leave it in the living room, it needs to look nice and you have to have a generous wife. I got a big one and thought I would be fine, but it soon filled up and I had to get another. Fire rating is my biggest concern and I got good fire rating which means an extremely heavy safe. The floor is supported underneath and it is in a corner for strength and according to fire departments, a good place to locate the safe in case of a fire...
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Sometimes, if you scatter a few of the less valued guns around the safe, the thieves will be busy taking those instead of breaking in for the good ones. That is the only reason to have stainless steel guns, to decoy the thief...
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I just bought my second safe on TG, it is a 24 gun Stack On it was on sale at Rural King for $299 after rebate...for the money it is a very nice safe !
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FWIW, I just posted a review of my new Safe under gear reviews. Bought an upgraded Sturdy safe and am very pleased. + 1 on -Bigger. These things fill up fast -Taller. Only a few long guns (think Trapdoor Springfield) severely cramps your shelf space
I ended up choosing between an Amsec BF and a Sturdy, but there are other good ones. Getting it down a flight of basement stairs is going to limit you. You might need to consider 2 smaller safes?
At the end of the day, we could buy safes that are fireproof and resistant to torch, concrete saws, explosives, etc. But we couldn't afford them and would need to have our houses built around them! And few of us will face that kind of attack. I'm about $5k into mine, that seemed like the balance point between security and cost for me. I think we all should have something, but we all have to decide how much is enough.
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If I buy another safe it will be one that can be assembled in place by me and if I want to disassembled and moved by me. Such safes are made by Snap Safe, Champion and Zanotti. I understand they are on backorder.
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